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Join us for a riveting discussion with Stoney Keely, the charismatic editor-in-chief of the Sobros Network. As an avid lover of professional wrestling and the Tennessee Titans, Stoney is an authority on both topics and shares his insights passionately. We begin our in-depth chat by examining the latest happenings within the wrestling world, from the Bloodline storyline to the rising stars of the sport.
The conversation takes a turn towards football (15:43), specifically the Tennessee Titans. We dissect the recent changes in the Titans' front office, the culture shift under the new regime, and some controversial trades. Stoney offers an insider's perspective on the prospects of the team under Head Coach Mike Vrabel and General Manager Ran Carthon. We also delve into the team's future, the potential quarterback controversy and the prospects of Ryan Tannehill staying beyond 2023.
Wrapping up, we scrutinize the Titans' off-season moves, the impact of the offensive line overhaul, and the potential repercussions of Nicholas Petit-Fraer's suspension. We also consider the reception of former Jacksonville Mayor Arden Key by the Titans' fans and the possible economic implications of the team's new stadium. Don't miss out on this comparative analysis of the Tennessee Titans' stadium plans versus the Jacksonville Jaguars' redevelopment efforts. Tune in for an all-encompassing take on professional wrestling and the forthcoming AFC South football season.
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James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
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Download the SeatGeek app & use code " TOUCHDOWNJAGUARS " for $20 off your first SeatGeek order!
James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
SoBros Network - Linktree
Join us for a riveting discussion with Stoney Keely, the charismatic editor-in-chief of the Sobros Network. As an avid lover of professional wrestling and the Tennessee Titans, Stoney is an authority on both topics and shares his insights passionately. We begin our in-depth chat by examining the latest happenings within the wrestling world, from the Bloodline storyline to the rising stars of the sport.
The conversation takes a turn towards football (15:43), specifically the Tennessee Titans. We dissect the recent changes in the Titans' front office, the culture shift under the new regime, and some controversial trades. Stoney offers an insider's perspective on the prospects of the team under Head Coach Mike Vrabel and General Manager Ran Carthon. We also delve into the team's future, the potential quarterback controversy and the prospects of Ryan Tannehill staying beyond 2023.
Wrapping up, we scrutinize the Titans' off-season moves, the impact of the offensive line overhaul, and the potential repercussions of Nicholas Petit-Fraer's suspension. We also consider the reception of former Jacksonville Mayor Arden Key by the Titans' fans and the possible economic implications of the team's new stadium. Don't miss out on this comparative analysis of the Tennessee Titans' stadium plans versus the Jacksonville Jaguars' redevelopment efforts. Tune in for an all-encompassing take on professional wrestling and the forthcoming AFC South football season.
Touchdown Jaguars Linktree
Download the SeatGeek app & use code " TOUCHDOWNJAGUARS " for $20 off your first SeatGeek order!
James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
Touchdown Jaguars Linktree
Download the SeatGeek app & use code " TOUCHDOWNJAGUARS " for $20 off your first SeatGeek order!
James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
Welcome to the Touchdown Jaguars podcast. I am your co-host, phil Smith, and welcome to the first of three divisional spotlights that we will be doing here on the show. You will hear all three episodes this week, as we do a AFC South preview of the Tennessee Titans, indianapolis Colts and the Houston Texans. As you can see there in the title, we are covering the Titans first with the editor-in-chief of the Sobros Network and the host of the unofficial Titans podcast, stoney Keely. I've had the pleasure of working with Stoney over the last couple of years over on his show and we finally were able to get him on here on Touchdown Jaguar. So, without further ado, I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. Just as a disclaimer, we did spend a good 10 to 15 minutes at the beginning of this conversation talking about professional wrestling. If you have no interest in that whatsoever, please make sure to check the show notes of this episode and it will tell you exactly when that conversation ends and we get into the football.
Speaker 2:So, without further ado, here is Jay and I's conversation with Stoney Keely of the Sobros Network. All right, everybody, welcome back to another Touchdown Jaguars divisional spotlight, and we are very excited for our guest here today, a guest that has had me on their show multiple times, but for some reason he's never been on Touchdown Jaguars or believe in the Jaguars, any iteration of this show. For some reason he has just not come on. But he has been on my project, the Wait For it podcast, telling some really, really spooky and awesome stories as far as the Halloween season last year. So, jay, we're very, very excited to have Stoney Keely on, editor-in-chief of the Sobros Network, host of the Unofficial Titans podcast, and just let us know he just started doing some film studies and newsletters for stacking the inbox. So, stoney, really excited to have you here this evening and also happy to hear that some new opportunities have opened up for you. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1:So far, so good. My man, it's good to be on here. I could have sworn that I had been on Touchdown Jaguars before, but then I remembered no, that was Wait For it. We were talking about the spooky season stuff. Are you going to do that again this year, Phil? Because, listen, I got a wealth of these stories. I can keep it going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely want to. We've made Andy Phil horror more of a just October thing as opposed to a year-round thing. So, yeah, I'll definitely have to hit you up and get some more of those stories from you, because they were awesome. I even went back and read some of those blog posts that you told me about and it was fantastic. So, yeah, definitely planning on doing that again. Yeah, like I said, it's just weird that we've never had you on as far as this show. So we love for you to tell our audience a little bit about the Sobros Network, the Unofficial Titans podcast and a little bit about what you do, before we get started and dive into these questions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and I do just want to say that I'm pumped to meet Jay quote-unquote in person for the first time.
Speaker 1:We've interacted on Twitter or, excuse me, x. It's X now, so we've interacted online before, so it's good to be here to talk AFC South football. So, yeah, I am Stoney Keely at Stoney Keely on Twitter or X or whatever you call it, at Sobros Network, on all major social media platforms. I've been covering the Tennessee Titans for 10 years at this point.
Speaker 1:You might have seen my name pop up on other websites throughout that time, but Sobros Network is where I'm doing the bulk of my work right now and that is a lot more than just Titans and football and sports in general. We do a lot of movie coverage, we do a lot of like restaurant reviews, nashville lifestyle stuff, all kinds of stuff. There's no limits on Sobros Network and, of course, part of that is hosting the unofficial Titans podcast where, you know, weekly episodes come out me and my cohost, outspoken Owen Reed. We have guests on from time to time breaking down the Tennessee Titans and, yeah, my film studies, my draft coverage now available on stackingtheinboxcom as well. So, busy time, man. We're gearing up for the season to start. It's that time of the year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's great that we finally have, you know, albeit preseason football. We have some actual film to watch and get to see a lot of these players hit the field for the first time as far as rookies and free agents. So it's an exciting time, even though, jay, like you said a couple weeks ago, by probably by this weekend, we'd be like, all right, let's get some real football on and enough of this preseason talk. Stoney, we talked about this before we got started. You know the three of us have a lot of shared interest and every time you have me on, you always ask me, you know, questions as far as what's going on with. You know, either fun co pops or wrestling, and I'm going to go with the wrestling route here because Jay also a big WWE and AEW fan.
Speaker 2:What do you think about the current state of wrestling? You know we got we're taking a little bit of a break from the bloodline, which I think is good, but we have, you know, la night, you know, coming up and Dominic Mysterio and Rhea Ripley killing it every week on TV, and then we have an AEW show that's about to pack Wembley Stadium, which I think is just awesome. We've talked about this before you and I just whenever there is healthy competition and wrestling, it just makes everything better. So what do you think about the current state of how everything is going in professional wrestling?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm in on it right now. I think it's red hot. I think the bloodline storyline is one of the greatest wrestling storylines ever told and I think they're doing it the right way, kind of taking a break from it. I think it's going to. It's going to come back and the payoff for all of this is just going to be it's going to be wrestling history.
Speaker 1:I can't wait for the AEW show. I couldn't tell you anything other than the main event that's going on, but AEW has just developed into that brand where you kind of know from like top to bottom, from opening match to the main event, that it's going to be a good show. You're going to get a quality product. So I'm stoked to see those guys go out there. You know they're going to go balls to the wall for this show in front of all those people in London. I feel like the WWE stuff though you hit on it with LA Night and Dominic and Rhea Ripley Like those acts are hot, but it also feels like there's not too much of that in WWE right now. You have a few people that are just really red hot right now and the bloodline storylines red hot and it's kind of like that's all that they care about right now. I'm a big Goonther fan.
Speaker 1:I love his intercontinental title reign and I think he's my guy right now. But I kind of feel like they would. I kind of wish they would give some of the lower card guys a little more opportunity to tell some stories.
Speaker 2:You got Chelsea Green working her ass off, you know to get those tag titles over. She has been fantastic.
Speaker 3:What do you?
Speaker 2:think about that, jay, because yeah, we know, I mean we're all talking about the same three things every week, it seems. You know, we're talking about the bloodline. What did LA Night say? And what did Rhea Ripley and Dominic Mysterio do? I mean, those guys are the what's the name of their? The judgment day. They're pulling triple duty every week Raw, nxt and SmackDown, which is crazy. So yeah, jay, I mean I think one thing that's great about AEW at least very recently, because there was a time that I kind of fell off on AEW just because it was just so messy and all the CM punk stuff also really kind of turned me off for a little bit. But for AEW, I think one of their strengths is there are always things going on at every tier of the card that are very, very interesting, whether it be their tag team division or the singles division. So, yeah, what do you think about what Stoney said there about WWE kind of having only really three main acts right now?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you know me and you had that discussion, what was it? Two or three months ago and ironically it was in a chat after we did a podcast where I was saying, you know, like, let's say, they moved on from the bloodline storyline and they moved on from the judgment day storyline, like there's no other like storylines that are like you know that they're putting out there like that. So you know, I found it interesting as well and just was always curious, if you take those two storylines out of the mix, right, you know what would the WWE go to then? And I think we'll find a little bit of that out now. Of course, judgment Day will, you know, replace the bloodline storyline as the top storyline, while they get that one a little bit of risk. So I agree, I was thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 3:I would like, minus Austin Theory, I would like to see the way get more airtime. You know, like we barely see them, since Gargano has been promoted and Candice has been promoted and Andy and Dexter, we don't really see them a lot and I think like they were a great storyline in NXT. That really, really I think you know, if I had to look at the numbers, they probably bought in decent numbers, and that's a storyline that I always wondered how it would look and how it would translate to the main roster. And here we are. You know we don't see them a lot. Now they're getting like worked into the mix slowly but surely. You saw Andy and Candice show up in last weekend this week's episode, so they're, you know they're showing up in the storylines.
Speaker 3:In terms of Raw with Johnny still kind of don't see him as much. I know he was on a like maybe a house show type of deal or something like that recently. That got people excited. So we'll see where you know that goes with him and we'll see if they as a collective group again the three that I just mentioned at least get more time you know, together as a. You know, in terms of their storyline. And then in terms of AEW, I really really like the promotions they've cut recently. I put a tweet out about this not too long ago. Between the swerve from promo that was cut where he went to, his name is escaping me right now. The kid from Washington went to his house and beat him up, him, and they are Fox gone reliving their lucha underground days. I watched them battle in lucha underground. For those of you who are familiar with that, and just between that promo and the Chris Statland or promo where she squatting Renee while Renee's holding the microphone and MJF joking on FTR.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like they've cut a legit amount of good promos these last few weeks. And then when you just add into the mix how collision has elevated them, now look viewer wise and statistic wise, maybe you know it's not like really showing from that standpoint, but collision has really elevated that product. And I mean, yeah, cm punk, he can be a little bit of a messy guy just according to the reports and what have you. But I think collision has given AEW more life a little bit, if you will in terms of bringing in more casual viewers or what have you.
Speaker 3:So, as you both have said, I like where the state of wrestling is and I've always wanted Phil can tell you this, tony I've always wanted competition for WWE and I always said, once we get it, I would support the competition through and through because that's what's needed in wrestling and it can't just be WWE as the top company in wrestling and that's just it, because we've seen what that looks like for many, many years and it wouldn't purdy. So I'm truly glad to see the state of wrestling and see that we at least have two companies thriving at the moment.
Speaker 2:And I'll actually push back just a little bit, jay, as far as Austin theory. He was great in the way and there's been like a little bit of a discussion like amongst wrestling Twitter that they need to repackage Austin theory as a face, because off-camera, like just his normal self, he's a very likable guy. It's just this character that he has now just does not work. So he needs a complete repackage and I think pairing him up with Johnny Gargano would help. So go ahead, sony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just gonna say the only downside to all of this and I don't know how deep you guys get into wrestling like we don't have to go down and indy wrestling rabbit hole here on the show but the only downside to it, with AEW coming along and really beefing up their roster and then WWE trying to Stockpile guys and and NXT, I do think it's had an adverse effect on the indies because it's all the good talent. So you can't go to like your local indie show and see someone like Austin theory anymore, who worked a lot down in Georgia and Alabama before he got the call to go to WWE. So I feel like anytime somebody gets red hot in that scene now they're just immediately gone and then it's back to. You know the the same quality it was before.
Speaker 2:Just a nitpick my only, my only downside to all this as as an indie wrestling fan yeah, you know, very reminiscent to win, wwe started buying up all the territories, right, we're seeing that now and when there's, when there's two powerhouses and Now a w, not only have Tony Khan, not only has a w to stockpile, he's got ring of honor, and you know. So, yeah, that's a very, very good point. But, yeah, go ahead, jack.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, what I will say is, yeah, stone, he's right, and what. What that has done for me is I pay a little bit more closer attention to New Japan pro now as a result because, as as Stony said, all of the indie talent is getting plucked and I mean they're either with a WWE nxt or, you know, in some cases, impact I think they go by impact now. But yeah, like now, like that makes me like watch New Japan pro a little bit more closely, especially with the relationship that a w has with them.
Speaker 3:And yeah, I just love like what I've seen out of that product personally with Love the cosmic angels Maltier if anybody watches them, they're a group, a duo actually, of Pop singers, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, like they actually wrestle as well, which is kind of something different. We've seen music come into the wrestling game as well, but not like that. So they're kind of dope to me. I mean it's a few others that you know make appearances when AEW does crossover than what now. But yeah, stony's right, and For that reason I've kind of paid a little bit more attention to New Japan pro than I have in years past.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, again, this is a topic we could do an entire episode on. I'm sure when you tuned in, you didn't expect 15 minutes of wrestling talk, but you got it. So we, we are unapologetically Enjoying this conversation. But let's get into some football stuff here, stony, because we are here to talk to you about the Tennessee Titans. I mean just a really, really popular subject within the Jacksonville Jack or Twitter community, j so excited to get in these questions. I'll actually let you take the first one, as we talk about and ask Stony about the the Titans front office.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course you know I'm the guy that watches everybody's front office right, as we've seen for years of me and Phil doing this and, yes, stony. So my question, of course, like Probably the most notable change made of course With the Titans is the addition of GM ran Carthon, who you know me and Phil kind of knew a little bit of, I kind of, you know, mentioned him to Phil when we were looking. You know put, thought we were going to be looking for a GM and we ended up keeping Trent bulky. He's a guy from the 49ers tree. So I just want to know what are your thoughts on him and the difference in culture that you think he'll bring, or he has already brought, from the previous regime, because you know, make no mistake about it like that front office in San Francisco has done some good things and you know if he can build something similar to that, you know that can make things a lot more competitive for the Jaguars.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you guys a story. Okay, this is the previous regime. John Robinson is the general manager and I should specify that this was reported by the media who were actually at Practice. I wasn't there myself, I didn't see it, it's just a story that came out. John Robinson was notorious for I don't want to say meddling at Titans practice, but he was out there with the players, he had a whistle, he had a whistle. You don't usually see that from your general manager out there running drills with the players and all that, and it was an endearing thing for quite some time. But there was a story that came out either last summer or the summer before where Kevin Hogan, who was, I think, the he was competing for the third Backup quarterback spot. You know, fringe roster guy can't body to improve competition Not really a viable option as a starting quarterback in the NFL throws an errant pass and it lands right at the feet of John Robinson and he has his whistle and he just slowly turns and walks away. A few hours later Kevin Hogan is cut from the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1:That was the kind of ship that John Robinson ran, ran Karthon. You don't ever see him at practice and I think that's the biggest difference. Well, for one it wasn't just the hiring of ran Karthon, it was that, in conjunction with Mike Vrabel, getting an expanded role within the organization. Now we don't know exactly what the division of labor is like, but we know that they are both considered executive level employees with the Titans and so the general consensus is that this is Mike Vrabel's team looking for a certain type of player, and Ran Karthon is there to build relationships with the players and to get the types of players that Mike Vrabel wants on his team. So Working more side-by-side, answering to the owner, amy Adams-Strunke. Then the previous regime where it was, you know, john Robinson kind of had a reputation as being a my way or the highway kind of guy and at the combine one year he was famously asked by Titans media about an analytics department and he kind of smiled and very coyly Responded with I am the analytics department. So another big departure from the previous regime.
Speaker 1:Everybody wants to Kind of harp on that AJ Brown trade. That was just an absolute disaster. And then the Titans go out and they just get smoked by the Eagles and AJ Brown has a fantastic game and, you know, a couple days later John Robinson's in the unemployment line. People kind of harp on that, but there were a lot of things going on that ultimately led to this move, because Robinson was a successful GM with the Titans but culturally speaking, things just kind of got away from him a little bit and I feel like he wasn't one to really embrace the the future of football in analytics. And it's one thing that we've seen Rand Carthon kind of take head-on. He brought in Chad Brinker and they hired a few more analytics people like they're building out that staff and they're saying that you know, this is going to be a bigger part of our Evaluation and roster building moving forward.
Speaker 3:It's a piece of the puzzle that they just didn't have under J Robb Wow interesting story and the reason I say that is because we've heard that before of Executives meddling too much in practice, right, like just Tom Coughlin always being at practices under Doug Marrone, right. And you know we've even heard stories about bulky, like back in the day. Of course not more so now, but bulky, I can remember it. I forgot the safety's name, a safety that he drafted in San Francisco, and bulky goes to the safety after the game and the say I think the safety had maybe a Miscure, something in the game, and he acts as him, like do you not know how to play cover 2 or cover 3 or something like that, and it's stuff like that. That, when you said what you said about Robinson, is kind of like. It's like man, yeah, I've heard that before for sure.
Speaker 3:When you look at the Jaguars organization and even now you know bulky does, he's always at practices and shaking the players hand, but he's not meddling, so to speak, is more so now. He's out there greeting everybody and he lets the coaches, pretty much you know, do their thing and whatever you know, peterson and company do their thing. So he's not really like now. So much in the way I'm just kind of out there to just kind of help get everybody up in terms of more rallying stuff. So I need listen, say things have changed, but I do, you know, like that, that story did ring a bell for me. I don't know if you feel the same way feel, but as soon as he said that I went back to thinking about previous Jags regimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not, not in the the best way either. So Definitely of interesting story. So what I thought of whenever you said that that he had a whistle was I immediately thought, thought of Rick Kent and him just yelling whistle, which I think would have been a lot more effective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Probably get with the times is 2022 or it's 2023. Watch some Ted Lasso.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But yeah, like you said, definitely Doesn't. It doesn't bring up the the best of of memories. You know, we we also want to To talk, to ask you a question here as far as Mike Rables future here, stoney, because how do you feel about Vrables future with the team if they don't make the playoffs? As we mentioned, the organization made the move at GM, so we'd have to feel like a coaching change would be the next move in line, correct, if this doesn't go the way that they want it to.
Speaker 1:Logically speaking, you would think so, but Mike Vrabel actually got more power this offseason within this organization and, from what I understand, barring some sort of catastrophe, this is gonna be Mike Vrabel's team for as long as Mike Vrabel wants it to be and he got an extension last offseason. We don't know the details of it, they don't. They don't share Coaching contract details the way they do the players, but from what I have heard through the grapevine it's a pretty lengthy deal and Mike Vrabel is absolutely beloved by Amy Adams Drunk. He is beloved by his players. His players go hard for him. I don't think he's in Any jeopardy of losing his job anytime, even remotely soon. It's at a point now I think. I Think Mike Vrabel would have to have like Two or three catastrophic, like two, three win seasons in a row for it to even become a conversation.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah, that's good to know and that's why obviously we like having these conversations, you know here, Jay, because it's on the surface level, like we just talked about. You know new GM means new coach. You know GM's not tied to the coach, we just you just move on and bring in somebody new. So really really interesting to hear that and but also not terribly surprising, right, jay, because you know we know how Mike Vrabel's players feel about him. I'm not surprising at all to hear that the owner feels the same way. And you know, when you have that kind of culture in place, it's really not something you want to just let go.
Speaker 1:And think about this too. Mike Vrabel had a say in hiring Rand Carthon, so you're not going to give your coach that sort of power and stance within the organization if you don't believe in him long term. Like the power right now is like it's a three way conversation between GM Rand Carthon, head coach Mike Vrabel and team owner Amy Adams-Strong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I can understand that because we've seen how kind of players rally around Doug Peterson to another former, you know player, Of course we've seen very take the field many, many times with the Patriots, you know, because he was one of those linebackers from our generation. I can understand that because the players, as Dewey Wingard said, they would run through a wall for Doug Peterson too. And when you have somebody who, especially in this day and age where you have a lot of outspoken players, when you have a coach who can make players rally for them and keep them in there with them, and instead of, you know, veering off and doing their own thing.
Speaker 3:That's huge. So, yeah, I can certainly understand that. But, that being said, my question is we'll continue on speaking on just like offseason additions, as we did with Rand Carthon, but, of course, like the you know, when you look at the Titans draft, probably the standout is Will Leviss right, the addition of him. Of course, with that and we would know about quarterback controversy, because we've been through a lot of it, a lot of with the wrong quarterbacks until we got Trevor Lawrence but of course, with that comes the question of like when do you think he'll see the field in terms of becoming a starter? Potentially? So, stoney, my question to you is this do you think he will eventually see some time now and this is not we're keeping entries out of this If Tannehill is healthy, do you think we see Will Leviss on the field at any point this year in the regular season, or do you think he's more of an option they want to groom for next year?
Speaker 1:I think it's 2024 at the earliest. I mean again, the assumption being we're taking injuries out of the equation here. I don't think there in any hurry for Will Leviss to see the field and, as a matter of fact, he's got a really good camp battle going with Malik Willis right now. Mike Vrable is notorious for putting his rookies on the very bottom of the depth chart and having them work their way up, so Leviss is actually starting camp, starting the preseason as QB3 on this roster behind Malik Willis, and Willis has shown quite a bit of improvement from his rookie season to a sophomore effort. So I don't think there in any hurry to get Leviss or Willis for that matter onto the field.
Speaker 1:There might have been a time this offseason when Ryan Tannehill was on the trading block, but once that fell through, they got him back for 2023 and Derek Henry came back as well. I think that this organization looked at their pieces and said, okay, we're going to make one more run at this and, quite frankly, titans fans don't want to hear it, because Titans fans are ready to run Ryan Tannehill out of town, but he gives this team the best chance to win in 2023. He is beloved by this coaching staff. There's a new offensive system in place with Tim Kelly taking over as offensive coordinator. What I'm hearing out of camp is that Tannehill is already a master of this offensive system and he's on the sideline in practice coaching up wide receivers, coaching up running backs, on what to do. This is going to be another good year for him if he can stay healthy and it buys the Titans a little bit of time to groom whichever of their young quarterbacks ends up taking over for him in 2024.
Speaker 1:Now I will also say if neither of these guys pans out, I still think there's a chance that they can work out an extension and keep Tannehill beyond 2023. But as it stands now, all signs point towards his contract being up after this season and one of the young quarterbacks taking over in 2024. I think that's the plan. I think the only way that we see Levis on the field this season is if Ryan Tannehill gets hurt or if the Titans just start the season 0 and 10 or something like that. They might throw Levis out there to see what they got in him. But there is. I don't believe there are any plans right now to play Levis at all this season.
Speaker 3:Interesting, interesting, yeah, I mean. That does kind of make sense, though, when you talk about Rable and just kind of how he's wired as well with, as you said, he will notoriously put a young quarterback on the bottom of the depth chart, so it sounds like he might have a little Bill Bellachick in him, who coached him for many, many years in terms of just kind of grooming the quarterback.
Speaker 3:Oh, for sure, grooming them the right way, you know, which that's understandable too, because it's, you know, will Levis wasn't necessarily a first round pick, so yeah, it shouldn't be like this crazy rush to get him on the field. But, yeah, I just always wondered about that situation because, as you said, a lot of Titans fans I know a few of them they feel as you said about Ryan Tannehill. So, yeah, I was just wondering about how his future was looking there and, yeah, like you said, the way you put it, actually wouldn't be shocked if he got extended for a little bit of time, which Titans fans would not necessarily like, but wouldn't be shocked at that one bit. But yeah, I'm going to let my man, phil, come in here. I think he has something to say real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and obviously you know you have to be careful what you wish for when you're ready to move on from a quarterback. I wanted to ask you, stoney, because I followed your very checkered history with the Titans taking Will Levis, how do you feel now, as we are sitting here on August 16th? You know, through the draft process it seemed like you didn't, didn't necessarily want them to go that route. How are you feeling about the selection here again, a couple of weeks before the season?
Speaker 1:I'm not the biggest Will Levis fan. I was not not the biggest Will Levis fan. I mean, look, the traits are there, I get it. If he can develop into a nice starting solid quarterback in the league, I'll be happy. I didn't necessarily see it when I watched him. I know some people compared him to Josh Allen and I just I just didn't see it. I just didn't see it on the tape.
Speaker 1:But so far in camp it's kind of what I expected, like they're they're really working with him on throwing with touch and like layering his throws and getting adjusted to NFL pressure and that sort of thing. And we saw it in the preseason game. He had flashes where you know he throws a really nice throw, where he kind of drops it in between defenders, some really nice touch, really good placement to Mason Kinsey and it's a big game. But then he would go out there and just, you know, throw the ball through the side of the wall too, and it's just that inconsistency there. I don't know how this quarterback battle is going to shake down right now because Levis hasn't. I think, what you wanted this summer. If you're a Levis fan, I think you wanted him to come in guns, a blazing and unequivocally steel QB to away from Malik Willis, and I don't think that's happened yet. And it's been a surprise because Malik Willis did not look good last season when called upon to play and so we kind of expected Will Levis to do this and he's not there yet.
Speaker 1:What makes me feel a little bit better is that the things that I was worried about the most the touch, the placement, that sort of thing does look like it's getting to be a little more consistent than what I saw on the tape and his ability to kind of sense pressure. There were times that I was watching his tape thinking, man in the NFL, that's a sack. Like you got to feel the people coming, you got to feel the rush and dodge it. He did that a couple of times in the preseason game on Saturday, but he also got hit a couple of times. So you know, I don't know, I still kind of feel like the jury's out. As a Titans fan, obviously, you know, I hope he proves me wrong and I hope he does become Josh Allen one day, but I still feel as a realist and as an evaluator watching him. I still feel like he's got quite a long ways to go.
Speaker 2:Jay. He sounds a lot like what you and I sounded like in the Blake Bortles era, where I think people certainly wanted to buy in, but we just knew that it wasn't it, because you could just see it. Sometimes and again, will Leviss may turn out to be Josh Allen or even better, but there were just moments where we knew, jay, very early on, that Blake Bortles wasn't going to be the guy. But we'll see what happens. You know, obviously the AFC South is teaming with young quarterback, so we'll see how it goes. We'll get to the next question here. But, jay, I know you want to add on something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that, and Garden of Minshew too, which I think with Garden of Minshew.
Speaker 3:It took us a little longer to figure out he wasn't the answer, as opposed to Bortles, because Bortles always had the pick problem. He always had the wobbly spiral and it never was something that they were able to fix when he came from UCF to the pros, obviously. But with Minshew it took us a little bit longer to I want to say us because me and you kind of knew like he was a career backup but it kind of took as collectively as a fan base. It kind of took them longer to figure out that he wasn't the answer either.
Speaker 2:Well, we want to move into some of the other moves that the team made here. Stoney, and obviously one that a lot of people were talking about here recently was the addition of DeAndre Hopkins. We want to know how much you think he moves the needle for the Titans in terms of helping them reclaim the division. Why is this going to be different from? You know, everyone's throwing out the memes the Julio Jones, the Ranny Moss, andre Johnchin memes Everybody's talking about that. When it comes to DeAndre Hopkins, which I don't think, this is whatsoever. Also, can you discuss any other notable additions that the team made in the offseason?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like the Hopkins signing. Obviously. How's that for some hard hitting football journalism?
Speaker 2:Yes, I like it.
Speaker 1:Not exactly a controversial opinion there, but what I think he does for the passing game, and I think he opens it up a little bit more because there was going to be some pressure on Traylin Burks, who we saw earlier today go down with an injury, and you know we're all holding our breath all day. It sounds like it was just a strain and it might not be as bad, so that's good. But there was pressure on Burks going into the season to be this team's wide receiver number one, and now what this does with Hopkins is it gives him a running mate, so to speak. So now Burks doesn't have to worry about doing it all. He can focus on being a really good deep threat, which is what he's pretty good at. And you know, big bodied physical wide receiver wins at the point of the catch. He's shifty in the open field, a guy that you kind of want to get him in one-on-one situations down the field because he can win those battles. What the addition of Hopkins does? It kind of takes care of all the underneath stuff, because that's where Hopkins can still excel. He's not the speedster, the burner or anything like that. He's just a really nifty, crafty route runner that can get open and cut on a dime and I think that that is going to draw attention and at the very least it's going to make secondaries think it's going to cause conflict when they have to decide hey, do I take Burks down the field or do I come up to cover Hopkins? I also think it's an upgrade in the receiving core that will help the run game, because man team's new Team's new last summer, before the season had even started when they played the Titans, you just line up extra dudes at the line of scrimmage to stop Derek Henry. They don't have anybody that they can throw to and beat you with the passing game and the offensive lines in shambles. So we're just going to load up to stop the run. And they were successful in doing that. So I think it puts the Titans in a position on offense where they can say okay, you want to line up and just smother the line of scrimmage with bodies to stop Derek Henry, we're just going to toss it to DeAndre Hopkins and then every few plays, boom, we'll take a deep shot down the field to trailing Burks. So I think it really diversifies the Titans offense and I really think it opens up the passing game.
Speaker 1:To me, the biggest issue for this team heading into the off season was the offensive line. I mean, this was a unit that John Robinson just left in shambles after missing on the Isaiah Wilson pick in 2020. He let Jack Conklin walk in free agency. None of his draft picks, like Dylan Radins, didn't work out. I mean, the cupboard was bare and this organization had to go in Mike Vrable and Rand Carthon in conjunction and hit free agency hard. They bring in Andre Dillard, who was a former first round pick that kind of had some bad luck in Philadelphia where I don't know what kind of chance he was given. But Jordan Milotta comes along and it's just an otherworldly left tackle Former rugby player. If I'm not mistaken that just the game clicked for and the Eagles had no choice but to start him over Dillard. And you know here's a quality first round pick that's just sitting on your bench.
Speaker 1:What's going to happen? Obviously, leaving Philly comes to the Titans. They draft Peter Skoronsky in the first round. It allows them to move Aaron Brewer from left guard to center, where I think his smaller stature is a little more forgivable. I don't think he's going to be blown up as much as he was at left guard. And then they saw in Daniel Brunskill, who was kind of versatile, swiss Army knife type of offensive lineman, going to play right guard. There's some questions at right tackle because Nicholas Petit-Fraer is placing bets at the team facility and now he's suspended for the first six game of the season.
Speaker 1:But this is an overhauled unit that they not only replaced players but they kind of shifted their philosophy and what they want from an offensive lineman to athletic pass-protecting guys, and so I think this is going to be a really different looking offense and to me, if that offensive line hits I mean Dennis Daly making a block at left tackle in 2022 a couple of times probably swings a game or two the other way and we might be talking about the AFC South champion, tennessee Titans. It was that razor thin for me. So they don't have to be the best offensive line in football, they don't have to be a top 10. I don't think they even need to be a top 20 offensive line in the NFL. If they can just show improvement from last year, I think that's going to prove to be where they did the most significant work this offseason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the room for improvement is so finite, right, jay? We talked about that a couple of months ago in terms of just predicting, maybe, where the team as far as the Jags where they might end up in terms of rankings. So many, just those tiny little things, like you said, stoney, that can just completely change your fortune. So it'll be really interesting to see. How has the reception of former Jacksonville Mayor Arden Key been amongst the team. He definitely got quite a bit of the meme treatment here in Jacksonville as well, and Jay and I have always been very supportive of Arden Key and we certainly wish he was still here, but a lot of people had fun at his expense over there. But how has his reception been within the locker room?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what man. If they could give that man a key to the city, he'd already have one.
Speaker 1:I mean he came in he was a tone setter, I mean from the first day. I can remember reporters saying like Arden Key is everywhere. The energy is just infectious, like this looks like a guy that seems like a really good cultural fit. And then they started playing football and they realized this man's everywhere and it looks like he's going to be a real shot in the arm for this pass rush. That needed some horses going into the off season. So nothing but good things. I mean you read the reports from training camp and there are days that like they're saying, well, that would have been a sack, this would have been a sack. Arden Key probably has seven or eight sacks in this practice session and he's just playing with his hair on fire. I mean this is he's become a really popular guy in Nashville. I think that there is there's a strong contingency of the fan base that is expecting some pretty big things from him this season.
Speaker 3:Well, that doesn't make me feel any better about Trent Baugh. He has. If I needed something else to pile on to him Because, yeah, stony, I mean, I think like one of the reasons that you know you see the play, that you know the level that he's playing at and and what have you in Tennessee, is because, like you know, the Jacksonville Jaguar staff, which has proven to be very good with, you know, getting more out of players than they came there with shout outs to their staff in general. Yeah, like they, really he was one of those players that they were able to, you know, improve his play and get more out of him, which was all the more reason for me for them to keep him. Now, maybe it just got a little too bit expensive.
Speaker 3:We've had that conversation here on the podcast where shout outs to Demetrius, you know, sometimes, trent Baugh, he'll come into a situation where he has a set amount that he won't move, you know, past not too much over, not you know too much under. And I think with Key, the Titans, you know, just went over that mark in terms of what they were willing to offer and you know, Trent Baugh, he in any way, shape or form, wasn't looking to match that. I think what hurts the most is that he went to a division arrival and then hearing what you said about him not only just on the field but just being a shot in the arm for the defense, that part right there doesn't make me feel good about his offseason that he's had with the team. But yeah, go ahead, phil, I didn't want to cut you off there, no, you're good.
Speaker 2:And you know, I just want to say you know we'll certainly continue to be fans with fans of him, not for a couple of games a year, but for the rest of the time. And what you're saying about him, stone, he doesn't surprise me whatsoever, because he did the same thing here and we all know. You know everybody's broken down the numbers that he had here. It's not necessarily all pro numbers, but again, when you have a guy like that that is so such a culturally such a good fit, you know you want to keep that guy around. So it doesn't surprise me that he has had that kind of impact there. And yeah, we decided to see what's next for me. He earned his bag and you know I'm excited to see what's what he's able to do.
Speaker 1:I'll say this Phil, go back and watch Bud DePreetate from 2022. And you'll see that Arden Key probably could have asked for the moon and the Titans probably would have tried to give it to him.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go, that's all. That's all it took to convince Tennessee is to bring in Arden. But, jay, I know we're going to get into our last question here, which is actually one of the ones that we are most excited to talk about, because Stony R2 franchises obviously always intertwined for a lot of reasons, but we have a brand new reason to be looking at what's going on over there in Nashville and, jay, I know you want to ask that question because, yeah, I'm interested to see what Stony's answer is going to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so we talk a lot. We have a lot of stadium discussions on this podcast and me and Phil like to say like we're kind of like at the forefront of stadium discussions in the Jaguars community and especially in the podcast community for the Jaguars. So, yeah, that being said, man, we wanted to ask about you all stadium situation. Obviously it's a little different from us. You all are going to brand new stadium. That's a little bit more in price.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, if you would, could you talk on where Nashville is in terms of the city and the city officials, where that is, in terms of what progress they're making on getting that done and maybe getting some shovels in the dirt, because the make no mistake about it, but we've been joking about it on Twitter, going back and forth. It's Jags and Titans fans, but it's going to be one of the better looking stadiums in the NFL. If you know, the renderings are an indication of what it's going to be. But, yeah, could you talk about that and like how things are going with the city officials and where they are with that and just your overall thoughts on the stadium? And also, how do you think a majority of Titans fans feel about the stadium too, because that's a big thing with these stadiums, because they cost billions of dollars and you have a lot of varying opinions. So, yeah, real eager to hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it is going to be kind of a smaller stadium. They're actually kind of downgrading in terms of size. I think I'd have to Google it real quick but I think there's only going to be about 65,000 seats in this place. But it's very sleek. If I'm not mistaken don't quote me on this but I believe they got the same firm that designed SoFi Stadium to handle this project and the bill's passed Like everything's clear. I don't know when they're actually going to start construction on it, but it sounds like for the 2027 season that stadium's going to be open. So still a few years away.
Speaker 1:And you know, I kind of feel like it's every city right that there's going to be a pocket of people that say, well, does the burden fall back on the taxpayer? And there were people that were really against this because Nashville as a city needs better roads. You know teachers don't get paid enough, that sort of thing. But I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, but I do remember the Titans, amy Adams, strong and Company. They're taking on quite a bit of the financial responsibility for this thing and it's because of the vision for what the stadium can be long term. It's not just going to be somewhere for the Titans to play, but you know they're thinking Super Bowl national championship Final Four.
Speaker 1:It's already been announced that WWE is going to have a WrestleMania in this thing in 2027, if I'm not mistaken. So it's going to be a big deal for the city. And I mean they're talking about basically building up that entire side of the Cumberland River, because right now it's just a bunch of, like scrapyards and industrial land. So they're going to build the stadium up and the next thing, you know, hotels are going to pop up, apartments are going to pop up, bars, restaurants, shopping, retail, all kinds of stuff. They're going to develop this into its own little pocket, its own little neighborhood within the city.
Speaker 1:It goes far beyond Titans football and while some people are kind of concerned about the increased traffic and the burdened taxpayers and that sort of stuff, I think there's going to be a huge economic impact for the city and, point blank, man, I just think it's going to be a really freaking cool place to go watch a football game and maybe get a hotel where you don't have to drive downtown, and maybe go to the bar and have a few beers before the game. Go have a good dinner after the game man. I'm looking forward to it. Like, just post me up on East Bank and we'll have a good time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean sounds a lot like what the Jaguars are. You know what their vision is of, and more so I would say you know Nashville's downtown area, which I think I've been to downtown Nashville once, I think I know I've been to Memphis for sure a few times. But when you look at Nashville's downtown area, not necessarily where they're going to build the stadium, but it's a little bit more further along the Jacksonville's downtown area and I think we saw that when they had the draft there for example.
Speaker 3:But yeah, in terms of, you know, in terms of the impact it has of building a stadium and then building around it, that is what the Jaguars are looking for too because, you know, as you said, it feels like the Titans ownership might be taking on a little bit more of the bulk in terms of the pricing on it. With Jacksonville is a little different because, well, for one, they're not going to get state funded money if needed. I don't know if Tennessee's doing that either, but the caveat with the Jacksonville Jaguar situation is that Shotgun is hopefully, you know, a billionaire of his word is willing to put in a good amount of money towards downtown Jacksonville. I'm thinking me and Phil have talked about this before I'm thinking it's like 500 plus million or somewhere around there. Phil correct me if I'm wrong, but he's willing to put that into the development around the stadium, not necessarily into the stadium, that's going to fall on the bulk of the Jacksonville's taxpayers' pockets, but just building around the stadium and, you know, kind of making it its own neighborhood and hub, as you said, which the Titans plan to do with their stadium. So yeah, we could definitely relate from that perspective, albeit we're just getting a renovation and not a full new stadium, but it does make me excited to see what the future holds and you just mentioned in, you know what the economic impact that it can make in terms of, like you know, developments and what have you, that that's huge and you know, hopefully, you know that's what it'll lead to for Jacksonville, because you know you could argue that they need that more than Nashville. And you know a prime example of what these kind of stadiums and what not can do for your downtown area or your city and we mentioned this all the time Another city within the division, the Colts, right Before Indianapolis, and the Colts built, you know, the Houston and Lucas Oil Field, but AKA the Houston Manning built.
Speaker 3:According to people that stayed there, it wasn't as popping as it is now and just the decision to build Lucas Oil Stadium, which that was the last stadium we got, I think, in the NFL before they went to the billion dollar price range. So they got a deal, a steal from that perspective too, but just listening to stories of what Indianapolis has become after Lucas Oil Field was built and they already were kind of on the cusp of building things too, because they always had the NFL Combine come there even before Lucas Oil Field, if I'm not mistaken, was built. So yeah, that excites me just hearing you say it from the perspective of what it could do to Nashville. It excites me about you know what?
Speaker 3:you know the Jaguar situation could have as well, if Shotgun is, you know, willing to be a billionaire of his word and develop the parts around this renovated stadium that we're going to get.
Speaker 1:Jay, I got the numbers. I got the numbers, I looked it up and this is from the Titans website directly. So $760 million of the $2.1 billion budget will come from revenue bonds issued by the Metro Sports Authority to be repaid through a 1% increase in Davidson County that's where Nashville is located in Davidson County's hotel occupancy tax in stadium sales tax, 50% of sales tax from future development of the stadium's campus, rent paid by the team and a pre-existing ticket tax of $3 per ticket sold that will carry over to the new building. $500 million will come from a contribution from the state of Tennessee that is not to be repaid. That is just the state itself putting in $500 million. The remaining $840 million are coming from the Titans. So Amy Adams-Strunk frontend darn near close to half the bill for this thing.
Speaker 3:Yep and see that's rare for billionaires, especially in these stadium situations. Again, jacksonville probably not as lucky because they're a small market and didn't get state funding. But yeah, just hearing that it's like that deal sounds a lot better than our deal. But still, the same concept applies in terms of Shotgun instead of wanting to put the money into the stadium, as opposed to Amy Adams, he's putting it into the developments around the stadium, which still could work just as good in terms of the ideas you can put into that concept and this one might get Phil excited.
Speaker 3:What if they build a convention center that Jacksonville needs desperately? I mean, I know they had a prime I was born and, if I'm not mistaken which isn't like a terrible venue by any means, but a convention center that can get you more conventions. And then we all know, like we live in a convention era where it's video games and you know, anime, wrestling, conventions, whatever, like that thing would be a hit if Shotgun wanted to build it there. Before you steal my deal, by the way, shotgun paid me, by the way, if you're going to steal it, but that being said man, all of the stadium type.
Speaker 3:All of the stadium talk gets me excited, man. But yeah, Phil, I wonder how you feel about that whole idea of getting a convention center next to the stadium.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would be fantastic. I mean, I was in LA a couple of years ago. You know, obviously, the Staples well, whatever they call it now crypto arena, it's right across the street from their big convention center. I went to LA Comic Con there, so that would be great.
Speaker 2:I mean, the thing is like you know, nashville in downtown Nashville as it sits right now, it's already a better destination than what we have now, and locals in Jacksonville will tell you the same thing.
Speaker 2:You know there's just not a lot to do here in Jacksonville and you know, ultimately, everything that you say, stoney, as far as building up the area around the stadium and like, is it going out to the bars and getting a good meal, like all that sounds great and we want to make sure that and we hope that we're able to replicate that down here. You know, with whatever Shotgun ends up doing, you and IJ have a very interesting relationship with Shotgun's ownership here in Jacksonville and you know some of those details that Stoney shares with us does make me a little envious, but you know, all in all, hopefully it just ends up with, you know, the Jaguars obviously benefiting and the city benefiting, because we just want to make Jacksonville a destination. The only thing that really bums me out, stoney, is that Jacksonville will never get a WrestleMania, because Tony Connash set up shop here in Jacksonville for all elite wrestling. Maybe we'll get a you know an all in one day, but the WrestleMania is not coming here anytime soon.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so and listen if it makes you guys feel any better. Most of the locals here in Nashville don't even like Nashville anymore. Like we don't even go downtown. It's too much trouble. You have to wait hours to get seated at a restaurant anywhere. The traffic's terrible and you know like we just, it's going to be Las Vegas before long. So a lot of us locals just kind of you know we're the old man shaking our fists at the sky Like what have you done with our fun, cute little city? It ain't that anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there reminds me of Orlando. That sounds like you just arrived in Orlando to do a J, Like you just avoid Orlando now at any cost too. It's just a nightmare to go down there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely Sounds just like Orlando. Like what eight lane traffic now in Orlando. And don't get me wrong, like I love Orlando and you know theme parks and all of that, but it takes forever to get from place to place in Orlando. And that's granted they have a major highway there. Still takes forever to get from place to place there. But yeah, like year after year, every time you go to Orlando is something you know some new skyscraper going up and you know the city's getting even more crowded and it you know it isn't as easy to get around in Orlando as it once was when we were kids going to Disney World. Now, as adults going to Disney World, it's like, yeah, you know it'll be fun to go to the theme park, but how long is it going to take us to actually get to the park when we get within the Orlando city limits?
Speaker 2:Right, well, I mean ultimately Stoney. What I'm also hearing is 2027, Soboro's touchdown Jaguars WrestleMania Right, that's what we're all hearing here, guys.
Speaker 1:Let's go for it, let's do it. Yeah Sounds good.
Speaker 2:Well, jay, is there anything else you want to ask our guests before we we get out of here? And you know, look forward to the season. You know it's going to obviously going to be another very, very interesting year for the division. I mean, the divisional rivals couldn't even give us like a couple of years before they got new quarterbacks. They all were like, all right, let's, let's do that too. So you know everybody's going to be looking at the Jaguars seeing if they were legit or not. So, anything else you want to ask our guests before we get out of here?
Speaker 3:No, man, as Stoney said, I always wanted to do a podcast with him as well and just glad to meet him after hearing like your first podcast with with him and then, like I never got to check out the wait for one, but I was like man, I feel kind of tested this Tony. I was like we got to get him on our podcast man, so glad we could finally get you on and we appreciate the great insight, man.
Speaker 1:Anytime, I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 2:Yes, Tony, and one more time. Please let our audience know where they can find all of your projects.
Speaker 1:Sobrowsnetworkcom, stackingtheinboxcom and the unofficial Titans podcast. Wherever you take in your podcast.
Speaker 2:All right everybody. Thanks again for joining us for yet another divisional spotlight. Stoney, we will definitely meet up with you here soon and we appreciate it. You have a good rest of your night.
Speaker 1:You too, boys.
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