Touchdown Jaguars!

AFC South Preview - Indianapolis Colts with Meghan L. Hall (The Colts Wire)

September 05, 2023 Episode 61
Touchdown Jaguars!
AFC South Preview - Indianapolis Colts with Meghan L. Hall (The Colts Wire)
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Megan L. Hall: Hall About Sports

What if you could get the inside scoop on the Indianapolis Colts' offseason decisions, draft picks, and contentious issues? Join us as we chat with Megan Hall, an insider reporter for the Coltswire and the Atlanta Dream. Megan, who's also the brand owner of Hall About Sports, shares her in-depth knowledge on the Colts' strategies and the potential impacts on the team's future performance.

We kick off the conversation by exploring the decision to hire Shane Steichen as head coach, the continuity of Gus Bradley's staff, and the role of Chris Ballard in the front office. Megan offers valuable insights on the new draft class including first-round pick Anthony Richardson and other promising prospects like Juju Brents, Josh Downs, Blake Freeland, and Evan Hull. We also discuss Megan's experience at the team’s training camp, giving you an exclusive look at the athleticism this draft class brings to the team.

As the conversation progresses, we dive into the Colts' roster and their offseason signings. We touch on the signing of Gardner Minshew, the retention of Tyquan Lewis, and the departure of Matt Ryan. Megan gives us her take on the ongoing issues with star running backJonathan Taylor, drawing parallels with the situation experienced by Yannick Ngakoue and Tony Khan a few years ago. We finish off by celebrating 229 talents Grover Stewart and Kenny Moore for their exceptional contributions to the team. Get ready for a riveting conversation filled with exclusive insights, expert analysis, and engaging discussions.

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James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.

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Download the SeatGeek app & use code " TOUCHDOWNJAGUARS " for $20 off your first SeatGeek order!

James Johnson and Phil Smith bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Touchdown Jaguars podcast. Welcome to our second AFC South preview. I hope you guys enjoyed the discussion we had with Stony Kealy from the Sobros network of covering the Tennessee Titans. If you have not checked that out, make sure you go. Listen to that episode right after you listen to this one. We are super excited to bring in Megan Hall, who is a contributor for the Coltswire as well as the brand owner of the Hall About Sportscom website, as well as covering the Atlanta Dream. Megan was super gracious with her time and we were very excited to have her.

Speaker 1:

One thing I forgot to mention in the episode with Stony is these interviews were conducted around the beginning to middle of August. Some of the episodes may have some information that's not necessarily outdated, but, for example, we talk about the Jonathan Taylor situation in this episode, but it was before his trade request was granted and then ultimately did not go through. Just things like that I wanted to mention before getting into this discussion. We'll be having the Houston Texans preview come out, hopefully tomorrow. Jay is recording it with our guest here this afternoon and then that will be out, hopefully on Wednesday. So hope you guys are enjoying these episodes.

Speaker 1:

But without further ado, let's jump right in the conversation with Megan Hall, contributor for the Coltswire. All right, everyone hope you are enjoying the divisional spotlight here thus far on the Touchdown Jaguars podcast. Super excited to talk to our next guest, who I'm meeting for the first time. But Jay and her have had interactions in the past and we recently found that we have a very shared and passionate fandom for Tori Kelly. So Megan and I are like best friends now. So we're not even going to talk about sports really, we're just going to talk about our Tori Kelly fandom. But, Megan, super happy to have you in here today. You are not only the brand owner of Hall about Sports but also the host of a podcast by the same name beat reporter for the Atlanta Dream Coltswire contributor, and we are just so excited to have you here for this discussion. So thank you so much for your time and how are you doing this evening?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely. It's a pleasure to be here and I am living the dream, as they say.

Speaker 1:

There, you guys came in with matching Atlanta Braves hats. I didn't get the memo so I had to switch my hat out. So thanks a lot, jay, for letting me know. So just keeping me in the dark, per usual. But we're going to get into this year as we have a lot to talk about with these Indianapolis Colts, of course, division rival of the Jacksonville Jaguar. So, jay, I'll let you take it away and get into our first question.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I mean, first and foremost, I want to say congratulations on joining the wire sites, because I used to be a managing editor with the Jaguars wire, so congratulations on that. And then in terms of my question, in terms of the first question we have, is I will just start from the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2:

You guys picked up Shane Stichin this year in terms of making that coaching change. What are your thoughts on him in the culture he's brought in, as well as the staff, because we kind of have found out that staffing is important, going from Doug Peterson to from Urban Meyer to Doug Peterson. So we learned a hard way about that. But if you would, yeah, could you talk about him, his staff, and also, do you think they should have just like cleaned the slate, the Colts in terms of doing a whole, instead of going with a half measure, like cleaning out the front office as well, because they you know they kept Chris Ballard company, all of them who we're kind of high on on this podcast. We like that front office, but you know, oftentimes what you'll find is taking the half measure doesn't work in some cases. So how do you feel about that as well?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I'll address the Shane Stichin part first. So first of all, I thought it was a great hire. To wait six weeks and still be able to land Shane Stichin. I think is pretty impressive by the Colts. I think for him he was a highly sought out candidate, mainly for his offensive mind and guru abilities. You know, if you, if you take a little deep dive into Shane Stichin, he's coached. You know some of the better quarterbacks in the league. Obviously coach Philip Rivers at the end of his career, but Justin Herbert, jaylen Hertz, of course, is responsible for you know his development and I think that's really what the Colts were looking for someone who saw the field, someone who saw football the same way, and Chris Ballard talked about that.

Speaker 3:

Regarding the staff, I mean you've got a brand new staff, nine new faces, which actually didn't mind, kind of the I would say, the half and half approach in terms of it's pretty much a brand new offensive staff and some, I think maybe one or two defensive coaches there. But Gus Bradley staff was was kept and I think that was actually a really smart move because that Colts defense was actually top 10 for much of the season. But as the season wore on, as you guys saw like they just they couldn't keep up. You know, in terms of children to load with the offense not holding up its bargain so it's part of bargain. But I thought it was a smart move to retain Gus Bradley. You get a year two in his scheme. They're getting a new scheme on the offense. Of course. You bring in JBC, so Jim Bob Cooters there, you know. You bring in Tony Esperano for offensive line, so you got a couple new faces in there to try to revamp this offense and I really think that they're going to be fine. I'm not necessarily worried about, you know, the offense looking worse than it did last season because, let's be honest, it was pretty much a hot mess express. So I think you know the only way to go is from up.

Speaker 3:

I think in terms of the front office, I was a little shocked to see Chris Ballard still be able to retain his job. In my opinion, I felt like it could. They could have cleaned house completely. I don't think there would have been much of a fuss raised about across the league. Really, baller is actually really smart, is really smart in terms of evaluating talent, but roster building is where he's fallen a little bit short and you kind of saw that with the Colts over the, the, you know the, I guess, totality of the season, especially along the offensive line, especially as you get into the depth of the team. So I think for many Colts fans they're a little frustrated, especially because Jim Urse is kind of dug his heels in about keeping Chris Ballard.

Speaker 3:

But here's the thing Chris Ballard is about to be in like what? Year seven. So now it's, in my opinion, it's now or never for things to start turning around. They haven't. Colts haven't won the division since 2014. Part of that is on Chris Ballard and part of it's on the coaching staff, of course, but I really, I really feel like a lot of it has to do with, you know, this roster not being as fully complete as it should be. Got several Pro Bowlers on here, all pros, you know that sort of thing. That's really nice at certain spots, but overall, from top to bottom, that you could use a little bit more, which is why you saw the Colts come out with what is it? 12 draft picks this season and try to bolster up that roster a bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, what I'll say is this I understand his and I don't agree with a lot that you say does, but I do agree with his, or I understand his willingness to keep Ballard, because Ballard has made some good moves and I think the Colts have just always been a prime example of this. You know, the Andrew Luck thing was kind of unexpected and, that being said, they have never been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft order to replace him too. So in a way, that kind of speaks volumes on Ballard is that they've always been good enough to not really pick at the front of the draft order like that. And when you signed a GM, when Jim Ursa had this conversation, when he first met Chris Ballard, the goal and the objective that was probably agreed upon in that meeting was to win games. So, that being said, I think like that's just one aspect that's kind of like hurt Ballard is that he's never been like bad enough to lose enough games to be in the top of the draft order to address some of the needs.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, unlike us, you know we've been terrible for most of the last decade and we stumbled upon Trevor Lawrence when the Jets decided to beat the Rams for us, so they kind of helped, we kind of got lucky there. But with Ballard he's just always been a winner and he's always brought, for the most part I mean a decent winning culture. But that's just me and how I see it. I'm an outsider looking in.

Speaker 3:

No, that's a fair assessment, though Honestly I think that's been part of the issue. The Colts have never been quote bad enough to be at the top of the draft where they could get some valuable talent there. They've always just kind of been middle in the pack in Chris Ballard's tenure. But the thing is to be very honest with you, it's kind of underachieving. If you see a lot of the upper echelon talent they have on the team plus, you know you had Frank right for several seasons, which was also he was touted as kind of an offensive guru you would think that the Colts would have fared better. But I think where they stumbled a bit was that Ballard was very bullish on a lot of his decisions that he made and I think that is what cost them ultimately. You're holding onto people too long, not investing enough in the trenches. You know what I mean, like overpaying players that were older in nature. That can cost you.

Speaker 3:

So I think now they're at a crossroads right. They've got to put up, or shut up, so to speak, and I think at the very minimum now I would think that the clock is ticking. So let's say that Chris Ballard makes it through this season or whatever else. Okay, I think the stakes are raised a little bit. Right, you're two of Anthony Richardson. I would think that they're, at a minimum, thinking playoffs. I'm not thinking that this year I would be stunned if the Colts made playoffs this year. But I think at year two of this regime, which Shane Steichen and Anthony Richardson and a whole new offensive identity you would think that, hey, they might be thinking okay, we can win the division, we can compete for a playoff spot, and that's got to happen. If that doesn't happen, I very much think that, despite what Jim Mercer says, that he could give Chris Ballard's walking papers- that's so crazy to hear.

Speaker 1:

We'll see you in Time will Tell I'm sorry, Jay, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I was just saying we'll see you in Time will Tell on that, yeah that's an interesting yeah, it's just interesting. There are interesting front office and general manager dynamic when you just kind of put in, taking to a fate what we all just said. But go ahead, Phil, I didn't want to cut you off.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're good. It was just crazy to hear Megan say that the Colts haven't won the division since 2014,. Considering how much they dominated when we were younger, right, jay, when we were just fans of the team and just dreaming about covering them yeah, and given the fact that they have had some top-end talent and Frank Wright we were big fans of him as well, jay it is pretty interesting to see. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they're kind of up against it when it comes to their time left there in the front office. But to kind of continue on that theme, megan, we're talking to Megan Hall Once again, the brand owner of the Hall About Sports brand, as well as Coltswire contributor. You can find her on Twitter at its Megan L Hall.

Speaker 1:

Continuing with the front office. What's your thoughts on the draft class that they put together? Like you said, they drafted 12 players. We were in a very similar boat. We took 13. We had always been wanting for them to have one of those drafts where they just kind of stock up on talent and build the depth on the roster. What is your thoughts on the class they put together? Of course, most notably the quarterback, anthony Richardson, because we did see that you recently got to check the team out over at training camp.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So first of all, that was an experience. Let me say that I'm really blessed to be able to do that through Coltswire. So shout out to them. They were able to bless me with that opportunity. I'm thankful to the Colts organization as well for allowing me to be there in the building. But yeah, you get to see this draft class in full force. So I could probably just start at the top With Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3:

I was actually surprised that the Colts were able to stay put and not have to go up and get him. I think when you saw the Panthers come up and hey, we want to trade with the Bears, you kind of knew something was happening. We thought I had heard some rumblings that the Colts had a little bit of worry that the Panthers might snatch Anthony Richardson, but they were able to stay put and grab himself. I mean, he's really kind of a unicorn athlete. He's a big guy. He honestly I'm not going to lie to you he's a ginormous human being. In person he looks more like a big, wide receiver than anything, but he's a super solid guy. The speed is certainly there, the athletic ability is there, the arm is there, the touch is there. I think for him it's about being consistent and I think that's what the Colts saw. They saw this big upside. He certainly needs some grace and some patience, but the upside is there.

Speaker 3:

If I keep going through the draft, juju Brinson, round two. I think Colts picked him at like 44. He's not a big off pick or two, but really, really. I mean when you say athleticism, this is what this draft class was A bunch of athletes. Juju Brit tore up the he tore up the combine Super, super explosive. Turn on the tape and you'll see he's a sticky in coverage. I think he's going to be just fine. I thought it was a really solid pickup.

Speaker 3:

After losing Stefan Gilmore and Brandon Facyon If I'm throwing out some more folks, this was probably my favorite pick. Josh Downs oh my goodness, holy cow, he's a Y receiver Batman. He is a he's, he's. He would probably say. I would probably say he's probably another unicorn. He plays much bigger than he actually is you would think at you know 5, 970 something pounds. He would get lost in the sea of you know Y receivers and tight ends, but he's got some really nice separation and run some great crisp routes and he catches everything. His catch radius is impeccable. So I think this is a. This is a sleeper of a pick. The Colts knew it too, because they were trying to trade up for him for 30 minutes trying to get this guy. Ultimately it didn't happen and he ended up falling to them, which is great for them. I know if you saw, reggie Wayne was I mean he was advocating for this guy for weeks before they even drafted him, so that tells you how much the Colts are really in.

Speaker 3:

On Josh Downs, if I think of a couple of other people Blake Freeland, double A, was really nice, which, by the way, double A, is a big guy in person too. He's every bit of the size that you think he is. Some other really good folks in the in the secondary Darius Rush, jaylen Jones that I think. Darius Rush just had a pick six in the the preseason game against Buffalo, which is great to see, you know, from a really young corner like that. So they I mean they got some serious athletes there.

Speaker 3:

I think there is another sleeper pick that I'm thinking of. Oh, evan Hull, also ginormous guy, bowling ball of a dude. I think he's going to be fine too as well. He's got some receiving upside as well as as well as some special teams experience, which I think that's probably why the Colts drafted him honestly. Plus, the kids got a motor on him. If you saw him play at Northwestern, if you saw him at the combine, he ran every single drill into the end zone, which I thought was hilarious. But that just shows him like, hey, he's going to finish, he's going to fight until you know, until the whistle. So I think, overall, this is a really, you know, really really solid draft class. I think what you saw was Chris Bellard stay true to who he was in terms of drafting athletes. Overall, there was not a really a pick on the, on the in the draft class that I was disappointed in and one that I kind of scratched my head on because I just didn't see it, and that was Titus Leo. But other than that, everything made sense, which I think was really nice, because it's a rarity that you see like someone kind of completely nail their draft class.

Speaker 3:

And I think for the Colts, like they turned some heads with their draft class and I think that they're going to have some guys who are going to make immediate impact. Obviously, the the one that I'm thinking about is Blake Freeland as well. He right now is getting started reps at right tackle because Brayden Smith is out with it with a knee injury. So I would love to continue to see Freeland's development and see if he could, you know, potentially stay there as deaf. There's also some questions about right garden, what the Colts are going to do there. So there's some, there's some possibilities there. If you could kick you know, kick Brayden Smith back inside to a right guard what do you play in college and keep Freeland on the on the right tackle spot. We'll see. But yeah, overall I was really impressed with this draft class. I thought it was one of Chris Bellard's better ones on paper right now and just you know, kind of quickly evaluating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're actually like a lot of what Jay and I have been saying in terms of our draft class. You know, getting athletes, getting guys that just know how to go out there and play football, make impact plays it's an exciting time and, you know, obviously here in Jacksonville we're learning to get used to this winning thing where, you know, the Colts have been a team that historically, at least while we've been around, you know, have enjoyed that success. We saw, you know obviously, a lot of people. You know Jaguar Twitter and Megan.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure you're familiar with the reputation that Jaguar Twitter has. You know they like to chit-chat about Anthony Richardson and throwing the interception. I'm like, okay, well, let's just not ignore the interception that Trevor threw on Saturday as well. But then, but then and I'm sure you saw this, jay Anthony Richardson throws that dime to Alec Pierce. It wasn't caught, but I was like, uh-oh, you know something you have to worry about because he already has the athleticism that you're talking about. Like you said, unicorn is a great description for him as a big Dallas Maverick and Luca Donchitz fan. It's seeing that guy play and seeing him athletic. We're also in an area, you know, where Jacksonville is, an hour out of Gainesville and you know we had a lot of Florida Gator fans. So you see, anthony Richardson, yeah, he's going to have those mistakes. But then you see a throw like that, even though it's missed, and you're like, oh crap, that they might have something here If that guy can put it together.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean. The thing is, though, that so that ball to Alec Pierce. I saw them do something very similar on Thursday in training camp practice. He was a back shoulder throw that he put right on the money, and you know it was like, oh, that was impressive. He did another throw, you know, to the right side of the end zone, to MPJ. So you saw that there there's even another throw that was actually pretty underrated. It was right through the middle. He I mean he threaded the needle on it. It was right to Kylan Granson. It was. I think it was a 20 yard pickup, but it was.

Speaker 3:

It was so fast that you probably didn't catch it, because what happened was Quentin Nelson pulled. He came right all the way over to the right side, picked up that guy that got the linebackers to bite on that side, and then Richardson just fired in through a window the window was so tight is over the linebacker and into Granson's hands. Like it is. It's highly underrated. I didn't even catch it in full, like in full time and full speed. I was like, oh, that was a nice throw, you know, nice little completion. Then you go back and look at the film. You're like holy cow, like that was. That was sneaky good, especially for a rookie, to be able to fire that in there, you know, right over a player.

Speaker 3:

And yeah, that, that Alec Pierce ball you're going to want back. Because when I looked at it from a couple of different angles I'm like, oh, that's just a flat out drop. Like Richardson, he put it right there on the money where only AP could get it, because he had some sticky coverage there and AP just dropped it. So you know that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3:

But I think here's the other thing he did that after he threw the pick and I think that's the important thing that people need to keep in mind is that, yeah, the pick wasn't great because there's a couple of things going on. Richardson tried to force a ball into a window, he had some pressure in his face, and then Isaiah McKenzie did not run the route the way that he was supposed to. He should have run the route a little bit more flatter and so that caused some hesitation, and so you know it's just some miscommunication there. So I think when you, when you're able to have short memory like that and come back and hit these like beautiful throws like that, it shows you the promise that he has.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we are familiar with a quarterback throwing some untimely interceptions and overcoming them, so it's definitely very, very impressive. So but, jay, I know you have some questions about, you know, some other additions outside of the draft that the team made.

Speaker 2:

And yes, to answer your question, yeah, that throw to Alec Pierce was a nice bread basket throw, you know it. Had I been a coach fan or had I liked the coach a little bit, just a smidgen, I would have been like, oh man, like I wish he would have caught that. But Pierce did catch it, unfortunately. But yeah, beautiful throw. I think it was like a corner post or something like that. He couldn't have put it any better for him. You know that was just on Pierce when he dropped it, but that's another person that we know of right field that we talked about a lot because we put him in like several mock drafts with us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we wanted him back, you know.

Speaker 2:

I was. I would say he probably won't drop too many in the future, so don't get used to that J. But yeah, in terms of my question is on the free agency, right, so we talked about the draft class that you all got. But yeah, could you talk a little bit about free agency, because on our free agency was a little quiet. But yeah, I can't recollect if Chris Ballard was active in free agency or not, but yeah, can you tell about? Talk to us about any additions they made, whether it, you know, be a starter they might have brought up or like maybe an underrated guy that could provide some depth for the team.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, I think, I think that. So here's the thing like, Chris Bialard had a very unusual free agency period. Right, he starts it off with a bang. He was active early. He signed Matt Gay which, you know, everyone kind of lost their minds over because they're like, oh my gosh, who's signing a kicker in free agency? And then it came out with this headline this is the largest deal ever you know for a kicker. And I'm like, yeah, because they don't. They don't typically get signed in free agency, like what's happening. But if you're the Colson, it was.

Speaker 3:

It was a signing you had to make. You know you waited too long to let go of Blankenship. It was not a good, you know marriage, so to speak. He had missed several field goals, including game winning ones. If you remember the Colts Texans tie from week one of last season, yeah, it's because Blankenship missed the game winning field goal there and it's tough to be in those positions. So if you're able to get a guy who can, you know, help you win some games, yeah, I think it's a no burner to go out and go get one. You also remember he had Adam Vittorio for too long as well. So there's that. So you know, I think he was like, yep, let's write the ship here, let's get someone in, if I'm just thinking of guys off the top of my head who he signed. So there was one that I think was a little bit of an underrated signing in terms of like, hey, it was a solid for Chris Ballard, it's the resigning of Tyquan Lewis. Tyquan Lewis had back to back seasons of season ending injuries and it just wasn't pretty and, to be honest with you, I really thought the Colts were going to walk away from him. But they said, hey, we'll do you a solid, we'll bring you back. And so you know if he can stay healthy. He certainly, certainly, certainly is really, really good depth guy, always had that spoke, explosivity and the disruptive you know streak to him but just couldn't stay healthy and that's you know, you got to have that.

Speaker 3:

I think one of the other things that you'll probably see is one that you know we don't talk about as much, but they did sign a quarterback. They signed Gardner Minshew. They brought him in. He obviously knows the offense. He also he also, oddly enough, had a relationship with Anthony Richardson before Richardson got to Indy. So it works out pretty nicely there and they are, they're vibing off of each other.

Speaker 3:

You know, I asked Gardner Minshew on Thursday at camp like, hey, what are some things that you're seeing out of Anthony Richardson Can you speak to? You know his resiliency or things like that. And you know Gardner just basically said like hey, he's always asking questions, he's always trying to pick, you know, everyone's brain. I think that's part of him just kind of understand like what can I do? What can I you know do to be better, which is really great to see. Plus, you know Gardner is a very likable guy. I could see why they brought him on. He's also, you know, he's going to push Richardson to be better. I still think it's Richardson's job at the end of the day, but it's really nice solid backup quarterback who you know. For whatever reason, if you decided like, hey, he's going to be your QB one starting the season, he could win you a couple of games until you feel like Richardson is ready, but it's my. In my opinion, I think that the Colts are probably going to lean towards playing Anthony Richardson. Outside of that, yeah, I think there's there's one more that I'm thinking of, samson, and I'm probably going to butcher his last name. I don't want to say it correctly, but it's a bucum. So he's an underrated, underrated, underrated edge rusher.

Speaker 3:

So, colts, let go of Yannick and Gagway. And if you remember from last season and Gagway was brought in really to kind of help that that pass rush, because it was it was just not great. And although he improved the pass rush just a little, it really wasn't the expectations that they were hoping for. He got nine sacks on the season and he hasn't really seen that high production that he had. I think when he was in Jacksonville it was like 12 sacks. He hasn't seen that since then. He didn't get paid in Jacksonville, which he thought he was going to, and he still hasn't seen that money. And, as you saw, it took him a long time to get picked up in free agency before he finally signed with the Bears.

Speaker 3:

So, colts, go and get a bucum from 49ers. He obviously is not as disruptive as Yannick and Gagway. His numbers are not going to be as quote as good, but what he does do is create that pressure. He's going to be able to collapse that pocket and that's really what will help that Colts line in general. I mean you got DeForest Buckner and Grover Stewart in the middle. They're going to do what they do, which is which is push that line, and if you get some more pressure from that right side, I think you're cooking now. You'll be able to force some turnovers or incomplete throws. You're really helping out your offense here by creating these big plays with the defense.

Speaker 3:

Outside of that, I'm trying to think of some other ones. Colts Resign Ashland Dulan that was one. They picked up Tony Brown, they resigned a couple of their own there really wasn't too many of them. They went out and got outside of that, and probably here's the biggest one. I guess that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 3:

You let go of Matt Ryan. So you're, you know the Matt Ryan experiment is over and, to be honest with you, I think it came unraveling in that Cowboys game Like the cake was baked at that point. But you let go of him and that was really kind of the last like okay, we, we, we, kind of you know you got to stop doing the quarterback carousel here. And I think that was really Chris Ballard saying all right, I've got to right the wrongs that I did, and I think he made the assumption that a lot of people did, which was that the Colts were quarterback away from you know contending and to be honest with you very transparently, I never felt that way.

Speaker 3:

I always felt there were some holes in the roster. I had a lot of concerns, even when Matt Ryan was brought in, about the wide receiver room, about the tight ends, about depth along the offensive line. There were a lot of concerns there for me so I just never really bought into this. Oh, you only need a quarterback and yeah, you know you can ride to glory, sort of thing. So I think the Colts did a lot in free agency that kind of helped atone for some of the mistakes they had made previously. But there really weren't other than the Matt Gay signing. There really wasn't any big like splash signings from the Colts. Everything else that's pretty on brain for Chris Ballard, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you mentioned a lot of familiar names there that we know. In Jacksonville, as you said, in Gacway the 904 legend, gardner Menchew got his start with the Jaguars too. Another guy that I'm familiar with as a Georgia fan Blankenship really wish it could have worked out with him. Shout out to goggles. It didn't work out, but you know he was a legend in Georgia, at least at UGA. So another one of my guys there. Hopefully he'll find his footing somewhere else if he hasn't been picked up. I don't think he has.

Speaker 2:

I might be wrong on that, but yeah, you mentioned a lot of names there that we are familiar with and I do agree with the whole Menchew thing about him being able to push AR, because that was his big thing in Jacksonville too, like Gardner Menchew refused to not be a starter, you know.

Speaker 2:

And of course when we drafted Trevor Lawrence, we knew what was going on at that point.

Speaker 2:

We knew that Trevor was going to eventually be the starter, even though Urban Meyer dragged his feet to name him the starter, and that ultimately began Gardner's Menchew career outside of Jacksonville.

Speaker 2:

But he was a guy that even when we drafted Trevor Lawrence and it's not to say that he disliked Trevor Lawrence or whatever the case may be. But even with us taking Trevor Lawrence first overall, he was going to go out there and fight tooth and nail to be the starter and felt very strongly that he should have been the starter. So that's only going to make Richardson better and, as you said, it helps that they have a relationship or they knew each other before Richardson entered the NFL. So you know me and Phil talk about this all the time at least I do. The stronger you can make a quarterback room, the better, and that's I think that they're surrounding Richardson in terms of the quarterbacks and the right personnel and all of that. They were surrounding him with the right people to groom him. And you know, we'll see if it works out for him, but he certainly has good shoes to follow in Gardner Menchew there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean likable till. I mean literally till he was, he was traded. I mean, even with Trevor here, like people were still upset that he was out, and you know there was also some people that were a little confused by that decision. And you know, like you said, about him being a competitor, I don't know if this story was true or not, but I do remember hearing a story coming out on Twitter about him wanting to, you know, go into the coaches in Philly and asking, hey, how can I become the starter? I think it was when, like, jalen Hurst was down, but how can I go about being the starter? So he has that competitive fire in him and he's also, just again, a good person to have in the locker room. Um, you guys also, actually there's more for former Jaguars on this roster J I looked up a taven Brian was also brought in, and today Ronnie Harrison, who just does not like the Jaguars whatsoever. He's also a former Former teammate here. Yeah, I think, yes, I think you had a hand raised. If you want to add some.

Speaker 2:

No, I was just about to add that story. You remember the story that came out about Gardner Mitchell when he was in college and he wanted like one more year of eligibility and I think it was a Washington or somewhere, wherever one of the colleges he went to, he wanted one more year of eligibility and he was literally going to take a Hammer to his hand and break his hand so he could get like a medical, like Red shirt or whatever, or more eligibility in college. I don't know if you remember that story, but it just shows you.

Speaker 2:

I do remember that, yeah, insane he is when it comes to the game of football, which I mean, like every GM is gonna love that, and you know he's gonna have a long, long career in the NFL.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's certainly nice to have Gardner Mitchell in a locker room. I'm one guy that I'm sure they would like to have in the locker room. Being involved a little bit more is Jonathan Taylor. Sorry, megan, to bring up what's going on here, but obviously we have to talk about the situation going on between Jim Ursay and Jonathan Taylor. How do you see it going and and do you think that Ursay is causing a team distraction that could ultimately hurt the team?

Speaker 3:

You know it's interesting. So I've been asked about this a lot, as you guys can probably imagine. Like I've got a lot of requests hey, what are your thoughts here? And even when I arrived at camp on Thursday got asked hey, what are your thoughts? So I'll say this. My thoughts are this I don't think anybody is wrong in their positions, right, I don't think Jim Ursay is wrong. I don't think Jonathan Taylor and his agent are wrong. They have a right to, you know, feel how they want to feel.

Speaker 3:

What I have an issue with is this being played out over social media, right, like everyone sit down, everyone, act like adults, everyone. Let's talk this through and I get it. It's a tough subject, right. Like he wants to be paid. But there's a couple things happening here. You had an injury history. You're still rehabbing from that injury from last season.

Speaker 3:

The other thing is the running back mark is I mean to be honest with you. It's kind of falling off a cliff in the last year. Ever since CMC got his deal. You're not seeing these. You know 14, 15, 16 million dollar deals anymore. Aaron Jones just restructured from 16 to 11. So I'll down and cook today. Get you know 8 million. Zeke Elliott got 6 million. You know, you're just not seeing that. I mean Derek Henry, I believe, makes like 12 million. I would be shocked if you know Jonathan Taylor were able to gather more than that, because, one, the injury history to His skill set is not as dynamic as a CMC or anyone like that. You know Taylor is a phenomenal back, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't really have the receiving chops to kind of warrant that kind of money. If he did, if he was, you know, putting up 600 or 700 yards or what you know something, something high like that, in addition to his rushing yards, yeah, you might see that if he had had back-to-back seasons of you know, I'm not saying 1800 yards, but let's say you come back with this season and still gotten 1500 yards and, let's say, 12 touchdowns, I think the Colts would have been more apt to pay him right, because after after three years you do have that right per the CBA to kind of renegotiate your deal, which is completely fine. I get why he was like yeah, I want to be paid. I think I'm a top back in the league, I want to be paid like one.

Speaker 3:

But the problem is timing. The problem is again running back market. And here's the other thing you went in with this strategy of, hey, I'm the nice guy, hey, I'm going to say all the right things, hey, I'm going to, you know, say, hey, I'm obligated, the Colts are obligated to me, I'm obligated to them, and go on about your business. That was in April, but in June there's there becomes a strategic shift when you don't get what you want, now you bring in an agent to help you, essentially, like you know, kind of Almost strong arm a team into giving you what you want, and it just it doesn't go well. The Colts basically said, no, we're not going to.

Speaker 3:

And then Jim Ursay throws his hat in the ring by making comments, not necessarily about Taylor, but he was actually responding to Najee Harris's comments about the running back market. But the timing just wasn't great and also it was out over social media. So it just it's inability to read the room when you've got a running back who is unhappy and wants to be paid. And then you're you know, you're tweeting out, like you know, hey, agents are negotiating in bad faith. Jt's agent responds on it and says, well, you know, bad faith is not playing your one of your top players.

Speaker 3:

And then there's this report that comes out that says JT's dealing with the back injury. He comes back out and says well, it's not a back injury. You know, you need new sources. The thing is he is injured, he's got, he's still in the public, he has not been cleared yet and he's been away from the team for the past week and returned today, of course, but he's been away from the team for the past week getting treatment.

Speaker 3:

So something is up and it's just not great from the standpoint of I don't like all your business out on front Street, like if we have beef with each other right, like we're not, we're not seeing eye to eye, like I'm not gonna put you Out on front street. That's just not my style, because one it makes me look bad, I think, and it also makes you look bad even if I think highly of you. So I really don't like that thing, especially for an organization that had a tough and I mean tough season last year where you Were constantly in the news for the wrong things because the team looks so bad From an offensive standpoint and from an expectation standpoint. They clearly didn't meet it. Like you needed this offseason to be kind of quiet. Honestly, it already wasn't as quiet as you want it to be, because you get, you know you had a brand new quarterback, fourth round in the fourth pick in the draft, excuse me. So you were getting attention anyways with this rookie quarterback, and then you know you've gotten the situation kind of taking away.

Speaker 3:

And I think the second part of your question was do I think Jim Ursay you know is is kind of Making a bad decision here, I think, or maybe it's something along those lines? You asked, but I don't necessarily think so about Jim Ursay? I think what I where I I'm gonna go back to what I was saying before is I really think this is an everybody issue. This is a like hey, we're letting this play out in a real time. Hey, you know, this is the equivalent of hey, we just moved into, you know, into a house and we invited the neighbors over, but our kids are outside wrestling each other in the front yard, trying to beat each other to a Pole. That's kind of what happened. The neighbor is like oh my gosh, you know what it's happening and you're not stopping you right because you're like oh well, that's just the kids, like you know that sort of thing. But the neighbor is mortified because they're like, I just came over here to say, hey, like that's kind of like what's happening, it's happening in real time and it's just not great.

Speaker 3:

So I think you know, if you know Jim Ursay, you know that he's one of the better owners in the league in terms of Advocating for paying his players. But this situation is very sticky and, and you know, as of right now, John's and Taylor hasn't changed his stance. He still wants to be traded because he wants to be paid, but the Coltern and any rush to do that, unless they get our you know an offer that blows them out of the water, plus he still technically, contractually obligated. So I could see this dragging out now. Do I think that you know? Hey, they'll get it done. Yeah, I think they'll get it done. I think everyone will see that this was super dramatic, but I think right now you got to focus on can you get healthy? And then the season's coming, what are we gonna do about the season? You need to be installed into this new offense and you got to be ready to roll.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy. You know, we were just talking about Unikin Gakue because everything playing out on social media is exactly what happened with Unikin Gakue and Tony Khan a few years ago. It was as if Tony Khan was like preparing for his AEW days, like he was just out there like cutting wrestling promos on players that were currently on the roster. So, yeah, it's so right because, like you said, I mean seeing this all play out for all of us to see. It is like peeking your head out of the window and be like what's going on over there? You know, like it's not really my business, but now that everyone is screaming, I kind of want to know what is happening. So it is. It is really crazy, jay. I don't know what your. You know kind of what your standpoint has been seeing all this play out right in front of us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I agree with y'all because I'm like I guess you could say in this way, I'm old school, in this way and in comparison as to how you know people of our generation, feel I don't know what Meg's age is, but if she's in the same age range as us, you know our generation, we didn't like like to air out stuff on Twitter like that. You know, it's like handle this behind closed doors if you can, especially if you're a professional football organization, right? So that was kind of one of those things. As you said, feel that she soon as she said it, that's the same thing I thought of was the Yonakin-Godquay situation. It's like can we like have these discussions behind closed doors, you know, and not air it out for everybody to see it out there? But I think that's just kind of telling of the generation we're in. The younger players, for whatever reason like that, have their business out there on Twitter and I mean, I guess Jim Ursa isn't helping it. He's out there tweeting too. But yeah, as you said, megan, nobody in this situation is necessarily wrong, because Ursa does make a good point about the standpoint of paying.

Speaker 2:

Running backs is hard these days because it is very easy to find one in the draft, and the only time you really want to pay a veteran is when you have one that is dynamic, as you know Christian McCaffrey, as you mentioned, that can help you in the past game and run game, because you know you're not doing yourself any service.

Speaker 2:

If you're, you know you're getting a running back. That's a little bit more on the one dimensional end and that's kind of hard to say because Taylor is a great running back but not nearly as dynamic as a Christian McCaffrey. So I really agree with a lot of what both of you were saying. And then, in terms of my last question I think this is the final question we got overall here feel is I am curious as to who has stood out to you in terms of training camp and even if you want to mention the preseason game as well, some standouts in that as well you can. But yeah, who are some guys that we should look out for heading forward these next two weeks of the preseason that have already stood out or that you think could be on the brink of standing out?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely, I would say from the preseason game. Grant Stewart you know the guy had I think it was 12 tackles, six of them solo. He had some really nice tackles in the backfield, some great tackles on special teams, just playing with a lot of energy. Gardner Menshu had a great game. I wrote about that for Coldswire that he was the player of the game. He went six for six, I think for 72 yards, like one 16.7 quarterback rating, you know, really good with the second team there to get down the field, especially first two plays that gave a back to back sacks. It just wasn't pretty, but they settled down after that and were able to move down the field. Darius Rush, like I said, pick six. Really great, really great moment there for him. I think, outside of that in camp, I'm thinking about Dorrell Baker. Yeah, he was actually. He had a. He had a, a PBU in the preseason game too. Really nice, could have come up with the interception too. I think he was just a hair off, but he's been having a great camp. I think he's definitely going to end up being a starter. The guy was on the practice squad and then activated to the active roster and he's been, you know, slowly tearing it up since then. So I really look forward to that, especially because that quarterback room could certainly use the help.

Speaker 3:

Someone else who I'm really high on, who I would love to see break out this season, is Nick Cross. I was really high when the Colts drafted him last season. Just didn't get the playing time because Rodney McLeod, the veteran, had the experience and his play just warranted. Hey, you know he needed to be played and I think you know for Cross it allowed him to kind of settle down and learn it a little bit slower pace. He got some you know experience on special teams but now he's he's playing free safety and he's got he's got some more responsibilities on his plate and Gus Bradley's defense, you know, responsible for communication and knowing what everyone's doing on the field. I think you know you're going to see that learning happening in real time, but really high on him.

Speaker 3:

And of course, like I mentioned, josh Downs, you know that kid is a sleeper pick and this guy hasn't necessarily been having a, you know, a standout camp per se. But Jelani Woods, he was my sleeper pick last year when the Colts drafted him. I just he just wasn't used consistently enough, but the guy is, I mean, he's a tank. He's six, seven, 256 pounds really big. You know catch radius. He's not like a burner per se but certainly can, you know, get a little speed on him. He's definitely going to. If you want to throw a ball up, you know, got those basketball skills, essentially like, yeah, he's going to come down with it. And I think he does show a little bit of explosion in terms of he had some bigger, you know kind of burst plays. I'm thinking of even though I don't want to mention this game the Vikings game last season. He had a 35 yard catch in that in that game and it was really nice to see him, kind of, you know, take off for that much.

Speaker 3:

And then my last guy that I probably will we'll talk about is Kylan Granson. I've been a big fan of Kylan Granson since he was drafted, also felt like he wasn't utilized enough. Kylan is your kind of eat the middle of the field up guy, you know, yards up for the catch. You're starting to see that slowly with Anthony Richardson he has, you know, even in camp I saw it. And the preseason game I saw him, you know, trying to look for Granson and I think that's really great. You know nice safety blanket for a young quarterback. It would be great to see Kylan, you know, kind of break out of his shell and have a breakout season there. So those are my guys who I've been keeping eyes on.

Speaker 2:

Nice, nice. Yeah, I'm always curious as to this point of the year, you know who are some standouts. That's a question that we kind of routinely ask around here when we do like divisional check-ins or check-ins with some, you know, with some other contributors and what have you? Real quick I know me and Phil are going to try and keep this one short I just, really quick, want to know your thoughts on two very underrated players from the two to nine region, which is where I'm from.

Speaker 2:

What are your thoughts on Grover Stewart and Kenny Moore as well as Plank I'm just curious because, like not Earth, say, but Barrett loves the scout down here and he's found some gyms down here.

Speaker 3:

Well, let me say this I am president of the Grover Stewart as a national treasure club. So, first of all, ginormous human being like in the best way possible, but he is a tank as well. I think I was a little shocked by just how solid Grover is. So I'm in person on Thursday of last weekend. Wow, he's a big guy with, you know, with some power on him. Love Grover Stewart from the standpoint of he is super disruptive, highly underrated, you know he forced the Colts to play him as a starter, which you love to see, scrappy dude, I think for him he is. You know he is the yin to de force, buckner's Yang. Love both of them in the middle. But particularly I felt like Grover Stewart is highly underrated and really underappreciated as one of the top defensive tackles in the league. So can't say enough good things about Grover. Plus, you got to love the Southern charm. I mean the guy is just a ball of energy, ball of fun. I was scrolling Twitter today and like cracking myself up, laughing because they had Grover on the on the GoPro, and at one point he looks over and he says yeah, we got Quinterius over there. He was talking about Quint Nelson, which made me like giggle too much. You know he's just having. He's just having fun. You got to love that as infectious Kenny Moore lightning in a bottle, you know as Frank Frank Wright used to call him. I still think that's there for him.

Speaker 3:

Kenny Moore is one of the top you know top corners in the league. I think for him he's got to stay healthy. You know he had that pro bowl season and then came out and was like, hey, I want to be paid and then he didn't. You know he didn't get paid because he he was injured and then didn't play up to his standards. He also was in a new scheme so just didn't help. He couldn't find his feet in Gus Bradley scheme. So looking for Kenny to have a bounce back here. But also really love Kenny Moore in terms of he is a smaller guy but he plays big. I love the fact that he plays with so much confidence. I would love to see more of Kenny Moore, you know, doing what he does best attacking. You know that sticky man coverage as well. Love both of them Honestly. You know, as someone who lives in Georgia, I'm always excited when I hear someone you know from the state making it to the NFL or getting some love, so love both of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, couldn't agree more, especially with Grover Stewart shout outs to all of any state. So yeah, he was a gym they found glad they you know they they do have a kind of affinity to like scout down here because there's a lot of talent here that gets overlooked. So yeah, I just wanted to ask you about them. Just had asked about some local guys, but yeah. Phil, you got anything you want to add in there.

Speaker 1:

No, I think we are good and, megan, we appreciate your time, but I will say, if you're going to get to ask yourself a question, I'm going to ask one as well and then also ask you to make sure you have you plug all of your links, anything, any of your projects that you're working on. My question, as we wrap this up, is what is your favorite Tory Kelly track? And then, like I said, let us know where everybody can find you as far as our listeners.

Speaker 3:

Oh, man, of course we're going to ask you that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, I am going to say I know I didn't give you a lot of preparation time. I apologize.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, and the crazy thing is I just I love her so much so I'm like, I'm like nope, can't say that. I'm actually going to say funny, if you know what song I'm thinking about.

Speaker 1:

Like she does so good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a live version as well, and I mean just incredible voice on her. She's, she's got the runs, and this is not a Tory Kelly song, but this is where I fell in love with her. She did PYT, which is my favorite song. And that's how I discovered Tory Kelly was the cover infamous cover.

Speaker 3:

Yes, the infamous cover and she does this phenomenal run and it just, oh my gosh, goosebumps, chills Like I'm getting goosebumps now talking about it, because she is just that phenomenal to seeing her highly underrated. But yeah, I'm going to go with funny. I think it's the, not only the song. Like you could hear her breath control. You could hear just the runs that she puts in there, the long note towards the end, but just the, the meaning of the song she's basically talking about. Like, hey, what are you going to do with your life? You need to keep your eyes open. You know, is it beauty? Is it money? Is it power? Is it fame? You know, are you in it for the glory? What's the story of the game? Like that sort of thing. Like she's basically telling you a story and saying, hey, I want you to open up your eyes here. And it's funny when we, you know when we finally do so. I don't want to get too deep, but you know I love a good story, so yeah, great answer.

Speaker 1:

That's my answer there. Yeah, I'm Unbreakable. Smile, fantastic album. I go a little bit further back. I mean again, like you said, pyt is where I first found her. I go, I go back to the Ford album, which is, I think, 2013. Daydream is one of my favorite songs, yeah, and a very similar vein, as funny, very similar tones, as far as lyrically. So that's always been one of my favorites. It's always on, like my Spotify wrapped every year, because I always listen to that song over and over again. So I wanted to get that question out of the way. Since Jay got to ask his question, I got to ask mine. So that's, I think that's only fair. But, megan, we can continue to have this conversation, I'm sure on a whole different type of podcast, but once again, let our audience know where they can find you and all of your wonderful work.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely so. Go to haulaboutsportscom. That's H-A-W-L aboutsportscom. You'll find all of the social media for my brand. You'll find my writing. You'll find, you know, videos, photos, all the things that I put together covering sports. So cover the Atlanta Dream. I've done some Atlanta United matches as well. Just did Colts training camp. I also have done some volleyball here in the last month or so, really excited at the opportunity to get to do the Atlanta vibe here coming up in the next couple of months, made some connections there throughout the city and got to meet their head coach and some of their staff, super excited to provide coverage for them. They are Atlanta's newest professional team and it's an indoor volleyball team, if you didn't know. So check out that. My write up about that on haulaboutsportscom. Otherwise, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram. It is its ITS a million M-E-G-H-A-N-L as in love, and then haul H-A-W-L on Twitter and Instagram. So, yeah, that's really that. Everything else is on my website. Check that out. Be sure to give us a follow on social media. We'd love to have you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Megan, we thank you so much for your time. We'll keep up with you. Of course, we'll check in with you relatively early week one and then again in week six, so we will make sure we're keeping up with everything that you're doing. We love linking up with other content creators and also being able to highlight other content creators of color. So thank you so much for being here with us and we'll speak to you soon.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely. Thanks so much for having me. Thanks, Megan.

Speaker 1:

All right, everyone hope you enjoyed that conversation and preview for the Indianapolis Colts as they head into a new era with their brand new quarterback and excited to link up with Megan again as the season goes on. Once again, all of her links are going to be in the show notes of this episode. Make sure to check out the Linktree link for the podcast. You'll find all of our social media pages. That's going to be the best way to keep up with us during the season, as we will constantly be tweeting out information in regards to upcoming games and everything like that. You'll also find J&I's personal Twitter links, which is where we are the most active. Link to the website is in there as well, and you can download the SeatGeek app.

Speaker 1:

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