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Touchdown Jaguars!
Touchdown Jaguars!
Episode 119: Regular Season Preview with Dilla
We welcome special guest Dilla to discuss the upcoming Jaguars season and all the recent changes to the team, from front office makeovers to roster moves and new coaching philosophies.
• The front office transformation from Trent Baalke to James Gladstone has dramatically changed team culture and strategy
• Trevor Lawrence looks mechanically improved with faster processing and better decision-making in the pocket
• Liam Coen's modern offense features pre-snap motion and "gotcha plays" that create easy opportunities for success
• The running back room is stacked with talent, though Etienne likely won't return after this season despite his scheme fit
• Gladstone's approach to roster building prioritizes meritocracy over draft status or contract considerations
• The Jaguars have positioned themselves well for continued improvement with approximately 11-12 draft picks next year
• Jacksonville's stadium plans and downtown development represent growth for both the team and community
• The team has a more physical identity in practice and preseason than in previous years
Make sure to follow Dilla on Twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/boldtakepod
James Johnson and Phil Barrera bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
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Speaker 3:Touchdown Jaguars, touchdown, jaguars, touchdown.
Speaker 2:Jaguars, Welcome to the Touchdown Jaguars podcast. Here are your hosts, James Johnson and Phil Smith. All right, Touchdown Jaguars audience. Thank you so much for joining us here this week. We are on the cusp of the regular season beginning and Jay and I knew that, in order to just garner some more excitement and get ready for the regular season, we had to call in a very special guest. So we were able to do that here this evening and we are very, very excited to have Dilla here. You guys know him, you guys love him. Dilla, thank you so much for making the time. We were chopping it up before we got started. All of us are very busy, so really we thank you so much for coming on here tonight. How are you?
Speaker 3:Hey man, I'm great. I appreciate you guys for having me on first off, really excited for this season. I think the content creators are going to enjoy this season a lot. So for everybody dropping by, make sure you guys subscribe to the boys. Let's get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, speaking of the content creation, how is the streaming going? I know you did did like a second half stream, the other the other night, uh, for the, the preseason game that I guess you know some of us were watching and some of us were doing other things, but how?
Speaker 3:is that?
Speaker 2:how's that all going over on the twitch channel?
Speaker 3:um, so it's going. I mean it's going great. I think having like 300 people jump onto your twitch stream is like pretty significant yeah, for sure it's.
Speaker 3:It's different than you know, like radio listens or podcast streams, so getting folks over there is pretty cool. I do plan on kind of like evolving and growing something new. Bold Take is still going to be the brand that's around, but Cap is an extremely busy fella, I'm an extremely busy fella and like getting those two dudes linked up on the same schedule is kind of tough. So he'll still be around. He'll still, of course, him and the boys over at DTWD Originals and everything else Bull City Brigade, all the way back. You see it on the shirt. You can't go wrong with the boys. Everyone's got a lot of cool stuff going on, so there will be stuff coming. Most of it will be on Twitch, but I'll definitely be jumping around hopping on these podcasts and then probably spend a little time on 1010XL, if things go the way we hope they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, you've been doing a little bit of everything. But before we talk about, like the Jaguar stuff you know, just to kind of get a question as far as you know being a content creator in general, I'm curious because I have so many projects and I got Touchdown Jaguars, I got WayForward, I've started doing voice acting, I still do some stand-up, jay also has his gaming channel and running the TikTok and stuff. How do you qualify yourself? Do you feel like you're in one camp as far as a content creator?
Speaker 3:And then also managing the DTWD brand. How Me personally, it's all fun for me. The second anything, uh, becomes like it feels like work or a chore. Um, I step back, which is why, sometimes, like the content comes and goes. So I think, like I don't genuinely call myself a content creator.
Speaker 3:I think I have an audience and a brand through twitter that I have the like it's kind of a blessing and a curse. I have the ability to like do things here and there and have enough interest in it where it's worth it for me, but also like worth it for the people who come through. So, um, I think you guys are like way cooler, way better at all this stuff that you do like you guys is the way just how organized you are, just from us chopping it up before, like you said, uh to what I see now and the way you guys sound online like I mean anytime anyone spends on either of y'all like you guys have been doing this for a long time under different names. You know what I mean, so it's always good quality stuff. I think that you guys are you and a lot of other people are in a league of their own.
Speaker 3:I'm just lucky enough to have the following to have some fun with it. I genuinely think I'm like a amateur creator. I don't think too highly of myself, but I do think that it's cool that enough people care what I have to say, that you guys think it's, you know, worth having me on. So it's, it's pretty cool feeling. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think what it is, jay and maybe you can speak to this is, as far as you like, obviously just part of Jaguar Twitter from afar at first, Like I think it really is just an authenticity, and it's not just from you but also all of the Jaguar content creators. Like we are a small market. There aren't as many of us, and then me, having lived in Dallas and comparing it from like Dallas and here, you can just kind of pick up a sense of like I don't know, like there are some people's like their hearts, not as in it, but with us it's like, you know, jay, there's so little of us compared to a Dallas, compared to a bigger market, that I think that's why there are so many like solid content creators, you know.
Speaker 1:Right right, and part of it too is probably just with that within that small niche of people, also to, the Jaguars have done so much wrong that we are very educated as well. We've seen it all right, like we've literally seen everything that a franchise, even though they're one of the youngest franchises in terms of how long they've been around, within that since what? 95, we've seen pretty much everything, so like. I think a key to it too is not only are we authentic, but one thing you find out is it's easy to point out the ones that know their stuff in terms of uh, it helps, it helps with the identifying factor of it, if that makes sense I think that's like right on the head and I think that's why the group is so forward, or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like the people know who who make the good content. That's where people go back and listen, because if you've done it for as long as most of us have, you gotta have some kind of some passion, some kind of you know something that's that makes you crazy enough to return and and get nothing back over and over and over again and do it for the love of the game, like truly, because they've been so poor lately. And I think that's why, like, as we get closer to the season and what we've seen from the new front office and the new head coach and the improvements from the quarterback, like we might actually be in in for something cool. Like people that don't live in Jacksonville don't realize how exciting 500 football is for us, because we know that means that we got a shot for the playoffs in the AFC South.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. There's always a nice buzz in the city and, having been here for so long, everyone's just in a better mood when the team is at least watchable. We're very excited to have you on for a bunch of reasons, but you're also a really good person, I think, to have a good pulse on the fan base and how they're feeling, especially, like you said, when you have your audience come in and hang out with you on Twitch. And what do you think is the overall morale within the fan base now that we're here without Trent and Doug? I unfortunately made the decision to for a couple of reasons. One I canceled my season tickets after they didn't announce that they weren't getting rid of Trambolke Like I got on the phone that day and also for just financial reasons, unfortunately. So what is your feeling? Like I said, what's your pulse in the fan base now that we're moving forward from that era?
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean overall, I think. So we let's take it back. Doug peterson gets fired no one's surprised, but we're all sitting there like all right, where's the other one? And there was already starting to leaks that bulky safe, bulky safe before the official doug peterson one came out. So the news finally comes out that he's staying.
Speaker 3:We watched that awful zoom press conference with you know shotgun and uh, trent Baalke next to each other and it just was like lame duck city and I think that was like genuinely the lowest point in most people's fandom. That was like we're signing up for another year, another years, another. We're wasting the quarterback that we think we might have moving forward because we're hitching our wagon to this guy and then we get that complete 180. Right. So everyone's initially excited when stuff like a new coach happens, because you get a new life, you get, you know, you get rejuvenated. Everything that you hated about the team is gone, so it's like fresh start. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 3:The interesting thing about this period we just lost our third preseason game. No one cares, right, because when the starters play, we see something different, things we haven't seen in the past. The offense makes sense. It looks like it's 2025. We're not running a 2017 offense anymore. There's motion, we have playmakers, but when you bring all that together, for the first time in a long time, the head coach seems like he knows what's going on completely on both sides of the football. When they talk about getting better, we see it within seven days on the tv. They're better. The defense was so bad.
Speaker 3:The first preseason game, people were arguing with each other online and then you look into, you know, the third preseason game and our second and third string defense has two are running for his life. I mean, that actually happened. Like this is what we're like watching happen. We're seeing the action meet, meet what's happening, said. I're seeing the action meet what's being said. I guess the actions are meeting what's being said in the press conference.
Speaker 3:So I think everyone's on like 90, because I think if we win that first game, you'll see us hit like 110. Like 100 won't even be like enough to explain where we're going to be, but everyone's like cautiously optimistic, plus plus. You know what I'm saying Like we've all been hurt so many times that there's no reason to not lean in now because it might not ever be as good as this is. Um. So overall, I do think everyone's ready. I mean, we're looking at, not this weekend but next week, and it's it's jaguars football against carolina panthers and I think you're gonna see where the favorites at vegas, I believe, and I think you're gonna see the Jaguars win the football game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people also fired up too because the Panthers started chirping. And it's like it's so strange because I don't have any problem with the Panthers, they're our sister franchise essentially and it's like why are y'all coming for us? I root for y'all whenever we don't play, so you know people are definitely ready for that. So, like jay, it's like then, where did this come from? Why bryce young had you know he looked great at the end of the season. That's, that's good for you, I'm happy for you guys. But like, why are you coming for us now?
Speaker 1:I don't understand well, speak for yourself, because the georgia boy in me also hates the panthers right, that's true yeah.
Speaker 1:so, like you know, I never really had this affinity for him or whatever the case may be. Oh, that, the way you give them that little bit of glimmer of hope and they think they're going to the Super Bowl, they could take on anybody, despite, you know, liam having the success that he had last year. But yeah, dilla, I have a question here about the ETN situation, about the uh, etn situation. Me and phil never really put a lot into trading etn because he's got one year left on his deal, right, like, at this point it feels like you might as well keep him. But what's your sense of what they'll do there? Again, we don't think he'll get traded and we never really put that much into it.
Speaker 1:Um, but that room is kind of loaded, by the way. You know, like that that's the thing. Like we're sitting here like having conversations of like what are they going to do with Tootin and Allen, right, like, who's going to be inactive? You know, like, and that, I guess, is a good problem to have, especially for this offense, so like I won't exactly complain about that. But that being said, man, uh, how are you feeling about etn trade? Do you think that'll happen or maybe it'll be something that'll happen, I think what the trade deadline is november, somewhere down the road there. Or do you think they just stick it out with him because I think he I mean, I think he's a good fit for the offense personally, but you know there are some people like, hey, you know, get him out of here and let's see what the young guns have yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think you hit the nail on the head in terms of fit and I think that that's why they're not going to trade him now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was traded tomorrow. I would be surprised if he was cut, but with etn, because of his fit, I think he's. He's safe, right, we, we saw him. I mean he still runs like he's running on Legos through the hole. He's left and right, but he's getting big gains, right. And when it comes to the passing offense that the Jaguars are supposed to have, tank Bigsby doesn't offer that at all, right. So then we look at the contracts between the two. Like you said, it's ETN's last year. With this price point, you're getting a seventh round pick, right. If anything, it's probably a seventh round pick. And does that seem like it's worth having over what you can get out of etn, when the head coach is literally speaking about attrition? And he's the best fit, right. So then we look at the two younger guys. They're they're both locks to make the team tootin and laquan right.
Speaker 3:Both of them had great, great preseasons. One of them's fantastic on third down passing situations. He's a great pass blocker. Tootin extremely positive running the ball, I think before this last game I guess he didn't play this last game he had like 18 carries. I think 17 were for positive yards, one of them was for no gain and zero were for negative. That's incredible football when you think about where the Jaguars offensive line has been, which has led to the running game being really poor. But we take it back to those two. I don't see why at this point, with what Etienne's shown he's shown that he's good enough to play in the offense. He's a great fit for the offense I don't think they're going to trade him. It doesn't sound like, from what I've heard, that they're locked in and locked on with that. I do think that if someone gets traded it's Bigsby. I think you can get like a six round pick for him, but I think it's closer to the trade deadline. Jags are going to head into the season with all four of those guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with you on that, man, I agree. And yeah, you kind of hit the nail on the head with something else too, in terms of you, you know all four of them, I, you know, like my little nephew shout outs to him. You know he was saying he can envision alan not making the team and I was like I don't, that's not happening, man, I think like he really in in my eyes, I think alan to me, is the successor for etn when he's gone to me, like that's how I see alan. Um and tootin might be the success for a successor of bakesby, more so to speak, but then again, bakesby has more time than etn left here, so we'll see how that works out. But uh, yeah, no, I agree with you, man and um. You know me and jamal saints here talked about man, like with how good they are fits in this offense.
Speaker 1:And also two people some people forget about the running back position. We now live in a day and age where it's 17 games now Right, and I can remember going this is a while back, going back as far as it was Leonard Fournette and his first rookie year saying like this is insane, like that was before we had 16, 17 games. He was like dude, like I don't see how they do this Like this long of a stretch of football, so like that just kind of shows you like for a physical specimen like Leonard Fournette, for him to say that like how taxing playing running back in today's day and age is on the body. So I mean, they all stick in my opinion. They all will, you know, see the field at some point in the season because injuries happen. Knock on wood, we don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I agree with you, man, I say tough it out with him. I say he's going to be a big-time contributor for the offense in ETN and yeah, I can't wait to see where this offense in general goes in terms of the rushing attack. Because, yeah, you kind of mentioned something else too. We're used to seeing like guys like get hit in the backfield two yards on first down with Doug Peterson, like we were notorious for being in like freaking second at 15 or something wild like this last scheme. So yeah, I can't wait to see where things go with these four and uh, I think yeah, we got four solid contributors that will, you know, help us out at some point of the season regardless.
Speaker 2:Is there any world where etn's here past this season?
Speaker 3:no, I would be extremely shocked. Like 1200 yards, 10 touchdowns, just absolutely sick of stats. Maybe like, like?
Speaker 2:what kind of money is he gonna ask for too?
Speaker 3:yeah, like if that's the case you know for sure, and that's the only reason. And then then you look at that deal in three years and you're like man, that was terrible, why'd we? Do that like I just especially what they got there those young guys in the back right.
Speaker 1:They've already prepared for it, so yeah and in addition to that too, though you know like I looked at the salary cap next year, from what I saw we weren't in bad shape, you know, be like intent or something like that, and still, even with that being the case, with quote unquote, the money to spare, like it's just it would be a waste of I don't want to say a waste like, because that's a little harsh to say of etN. But when you have what we have and we've seen literally what Tootin has done in the preseason, especially as a rusher, it's like you just you can't make that misstep. You can't put money into that position, like not the money that it will require to keep him.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. Well, from one offensive room to another. We were actually talking about this before we got started, dilla. We were talking about the Jaguars being interested in picking up a wide receiver and we talked about, like, we're just not really used to the Jaguars being relatively top heavy at wide receiver and now they need to find somebody that can. We're trying to fill out the back end of that room. Do you think they make a move there? You know sean payton, throughout that they may have been involved in the you know, the devon valet deal. So what do you think they do there as far as finding a guy that fills essentially multiple positions?
Speaker 3:um. So I do think they're exploring that now. I've heard that they've been calling around and then it's funny because I was texting with a pal the night before the Sean Payton clip hit. So just kind of the validation points there that they're definitely calling around for receivers. It's got to be someone who is OK with being down the depth chart but also performing on special teams. That cuts down the list a lot, especially when you think about the fact that they want a bigger body.
Speaker 3:So then you're looking at players like in the past, like Tim Jones, like those kind of guys you know what I'm saying when they're not necessarily helping out on offense but the Jaguars are looking for another receiver who can help on the offense. So it's an extremely filtered search. They're definitely going to look for something specific. So when it comes to a trade, I don't know, but I do feel like the fifth receiver is not on the roster right now. I could see, you know it being another undrafted free agent guy or a vet who got cut that has a very specific you know athletic profile and skill set. I'll be interested to see what happens. I think the cornerback room's real similar. In the same way, the fifth six spot isn't on the roster. They're going to look somewhere else and I think otherwise I'm not really expecting too much of a surprise yeah, jay, you actually put out a tweet earlier today.
Speaker 2:Who were some of those names that you had kind of like circled in your research?
Speaker 1:so one name that kind of stood out to me, uh, tyrell shavers from the buffalo bills, who I'm highly doubtful that they will cut him. But the reason I looked at a roster like the Bills is because again, you kind of mentioned it, phil the rosters that are top-heavy and stacked and established and that will have playoff-caliber makeups. A lot of times those guys slide through the cracks and get cut. So you have to look at kind of like rosters like that or that are stacked and just it's a numbers game where they would love to keep this person but they simply can't because they're established. So Tyrell Shavers was one, but even with that being still the case, with Buffalo being as good as they are, I think they made room for him as a sixth receiver because he kind of really shined in the last preseason game and also, too, like Dilla, kind of made the point too. Like you got to ask yourself how does he help you as a special teamers to as a special teamer if he does get cut, which I'm not sure like where he lies in terms of the special team? Regard Tim Patrick's, another guy. That's a veteran guy who you know obviously he wouldn't be weighed, he'd be cut, so you could just get him off the street. You don't have to go to the waiver wire for him on Detroit.
Speaker 1:Jadae Walker from Chicago here we are like halfway through the day. They haven't cut him yet, so that's kind of a sign they might be sticking with him. Quentin Skinner I think Skinner was one of the ones that might have some special teams background from um NYJ. Another young undrafted guy, kind of like Dillon mentioned. That's. That's kind of the niche you're looking at is undrafted guys who kind of on that bubble spot. And then DeLevion Campbell from the Chargers as well. He's another taller guy. I'll have to research if he has a special teams background. But yeah, these are guys like undrafted guys for the most part, aside from Tim Patrick who you know are longer, have the length that the Jaguars want on offense and that could be cut tomorrow. More than likely Not today but tomorrow.
Speaker 3:Here's a fun name for you. What about our old friend Colin Johnson? Would you like to see him come back if he was cut? My guy.
Speaker 1:Let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where is he at? Is he still in Chicago or where is he at right now?
Speaker 3:I don't know. Off the top of my head I saw that he was in jeopardy of not making a roster.
Speaker 2:That's fine. I know he was in Chicago last year.
Speaker 3:He might still be there.
Speaker 2:Current team Las Vegas. Okay, according to the wiki. But yeah, I mean listen as uh selfishly I would. Uh, I would certainly like to see colin back, but uh, but yeah, uh, jay, if you want to get into, uh, the next question here yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, um, and this is a guy that we've all talked about a lot, right, you know, I guess it would be a waste for us not to mention Trevor Lawrence, which you on the podcast still right, me and Phil, we try and stray away from like the obvious questions, but sometimes it's some of them you just have to ask, you can't like even veer away from. But yeah, I mean, like it's clear man that Trevor has put in the work in the offseason. He looks like a way better quarterback. I got to check him out in one of the training camps now that particular training camp he struggled but mechanically I saw a better quarterback mechanically. That was a Sunday but he struggled that day but still I saw a way different mechanical quarterback. But yeah, man, like what are your thoughts on how he's looked and just the jump he's made and like what could be ahead for him in terms of the kind of season that you might project for him.
Speaker 3:So I think with Trevor, like, no matter how much work he puts into it, he's got to stay healthy Right. So that'll come with better protection, which should come from having a better front office, but at the end of the day he's got to stay healthy when he gets hit right. So we fast forward. We play 17 games. He stays healthy. What? What did he do if he's as good as we think he's going to be?
Speaker 3:Like you said, mechanically he looks amazing right now. He looks so sped up in the pocket he almost looks like a different quarterback. He looks as fast as he did in the college game and comparing it to the college game Now, comparing it to the NFL game, the process is so much better. He's getting through his reads and when his reads aren't open, he's he's tucking the ball and he's running forward. In the first game against the Steelers he ran for like three or four yards not a really big play in preseason game. You don't want to see him get tackled. But in the past he does that goofy little peel out spin move and he's losing yards or throwing the ball away or getting hit again for no reason. The thought process looks better too. You know what I'm saying. And then we add all the work that he's doing outside of the game to get better himself, and then we put him in an offense that's got gimme plays right, we're putting him in an offense that's got gotchas, like it doesn't matter what he does, he can't mess it up. It's designed for him to take the easy plays if the big play is not there. And then you look at the roster it's probably the best roster, talent-wise on offense, that he's had.
Speaker 3:So when we put everything together, the contract is out of the way, right? We're not thinking about that. He already got that. Should he have gotten it? I don't know. We'll find out real soon. Everything is there for it to be a successful year. We just have to see it now, right? So we're sitting 10, 12 days until the next game, the first game of the season.
Speaker 3:If he comes out and he lights the Panthers up, you guys should all just meet me on Twitter. I will be unfathomable. I will be in every single Carolina Panthers quote two, quote two, quote two and I'll be sending it out to all my followers and we'll all be ripping your mentions like it's 2018. We'll all be staying up real late. We'll be watching Sunday night football and Monday night football, talking about the Jaguars, because that's the ability that Trevor Lawrence has. He has to get there, he has to take us to the promised land. He has the ability, but until he does it we have to be like slightly reserved.
Speaker 3:But like back to what you're saying. I mean he looks completely different. You know, we'll bring this back to reality. Everything that we've needed to see. We saw they only play a couple drives, a couple plays a game. We don't care about the wins or losses.
Speaker 3:Some people are going to say he turned the ball over. He always turns the ball over in the red zone. It's kind of a simpleton thinking to me. I think that in everything there's context and if you're not able to just be like he got stepped on and they fumbled the football because that happened, like I'm sorry but I don't want to talk football with you, like let's just be real about it. You know what I mean. Like things happen. It's a preseason game. If that happens against the Panthers in the same thing, I'm gonna be like bro, we saw that happen already. Like why'd you let that happen again? It's's a completely different context. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So he's got everything he needs. I feel like the situation is perfect for him. Everyone believes in him. Locally, the national media is chirping a little bit. I'm not against that. He needs to hear it a little bit. He doesn't really care what we think, but he's a person. He cares what they think and I think this is going to be the year All my chips are in there, but I'm all in. If it's a bust, I'm broke, I'm out. So we'll see what happens, but I'm fully in with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, man, and I'm here for you. Lighting up Panther's Twitter again. The Georgiaia boy in me would love that. Okay, anytime them and the saints are getting lit up, I'm always for you. Know, I'm a jazz fan in the heart.
Speaker 1:But those people who rival the falcons too like I love seeing them get with what's coming as well but, yeah, you kind of hit like something on the nail on the head with the whole thing about the offense, provides and it's never been worded that way, but it does provide a lot of gotcha throws, like easy type of situations for him. So you know and he's even said it, though he's alluded to it like this offense has all the answers is what he said and that's kind of what he meant. And, um, yeah, no, I like that for him and, you're right, it does feel like he's functioning like clemson, trevor lawrence, right, and we haven't seen that for quite some time. You know, like we saw it like briefly early in doug peterson's tenure, you know when he went on, that, that crazy tear that he went on, but we haven't seen that in a while, a long time, and for him, I think what's telling, though, is for him to start his tenure with liam cohen like that, you know I'm saying even, like when it took him a while to get into that groove with doug, even when he found it, it took him a while, like he didn't start off like that. You know what I'm saying. So I think that's telling. Um, of course, as you mentioned as well, though, like health gotta stay healthy, which I think that'll come naturally.
Speaker 1:Um, now that, like, again, we don't have trent making the offensive line for him. I've said this many, many times, man, trent just didn't know, like it wasn't that trent didn't invest in the offensive line, he just didn't know what the hell he was doing. Right, you know, like he he put, you know he got Cam, well, extended Cam Robinson, should I say, that was Dave Caldwell Pitt kept Walker Little and drafted Walker Little, by the way, and extended him, added Ezra Cleveland via trade. Like he tried a multitude of things, just didn't know how to fix whatever that was going on. I think we are in a position now where that won't be an issue. This front office does know how to identify offensive linemen a little bit better. Right, and yeah, man, I can't wait to see, like you know, him go off, if that's going to be the case, cause, yeah, I'm going to be pretty much one of those people as loud as you as well, cause yeah, I'm going to be pretty much one of those people as loud as you as well.
Speaker 2:Well, how's he going to play quarterback? Well, if he's spending so much?
Speaker 3:time with his family, so I don't know I can't believe all the mechanics change with with a wife and a kid Now it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you brought up a couple of things that I I really noticed too. One was just again that little a three, four yard run, like Jay just talked about it, like instead that's the difference between second and 15, and then second and six, like that's going to make a huge difference throughout the entire season. Um, and then, yeah, also echoing the same sentiments that you did, like, if that, if he doesn't tuck the ball when he's falling and he fumbles the football in week one, then yeah, we're banging the tv, but it happens in new orleans, new Orleans, when they're just trying to work these things out, fine, then they went right down the field and scored a touchdown the very next drive. Those are the kind of things I like people I get like maybe because of where the franchise has been, they start to get worried. They're hearing all this outside stuff, like Mike Tannenbaum saying they should sign Kirk Cousins in the offseason, and all this outside stuff like Mike Tannenbaum saying they should sign her cousins in the off season, and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:So I think people are panicking. They don't have the. You know, we don't have a first round pick next year, so. But I think people just kind of get in their heads about it, because Trevor just doesn't get the same grace as, like, justin Herbert. You know which is crazy to me? And we're entering what year, with Justin Herbert and he's like a, they still rank him top 10. I don't get it, I don't know, it's just frustrating hey, phil, real quick.
Speaker 1:You mentioned something with the draft picks. Right, we don't have the first next year. Shout outs to Travis. He put that tweet out like despite that, did y'all see like how stacked we are with draft picks? Yeah?
Speaker 3:we're still picking like 15 times. I think it's like genuinely 11 or 12. Like we're still picking like 15 times. I think it's like genuinely 11 or 12.
Speaker 1:Like we're still picking a crazy amount of times. It's insane, which I mean like it feels like the most Gladstone thing to do is package them all up and come back into the first. But you know we're looking too far into the future.
Speaker 1:But that feels like the most Gladstone thing ever, despite not having that first like. All I just wanted to say is like I'm not even stressed about I never was like you all have heard my sentiment about. Like when we traded the first right. It's like whatever man like to get Travis Hunter, like I live through the Trent Baalke regime where if you mention a first round pick, he's hanging up in your face Like you know what I'm saying. Like so he's hanging up in your face, like you know what I'm saying. Like so to go from that to like being so willing to give up first, like I was happy with it, it never was an issue to me. But yeah, man, like I just it's just refreshing to see you know, even without that first round pick, where we are and, like that, the fact that we could be excited about next year yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:And, like you said, you know we we got through the Doug and Trent days and now now we're here with Gladstone and Vasselli handling things in the front office. Do you get the sense that around the league that maybe the team is a little bit more respected because of the changes that have been made? What do you think is going on there now that they even though it was a little late, they did make the changes that were necessary?
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. I mean, we saw, after we played the the saints, we made a trade for defensive tackle, depth, right, colin, what was his last name? Colin saunders, saunders, good call, bink, that's what I've been calling him, bink in my head, and I tried to give him the real name and didn't want to say kaylin, and I thought so hard about that I couldn't remember his last name. But, um, no, I mean you. You see, gladstone, reach out and make the roster better. They traded a player they were going to cut, probably the play with the least affinity in the fan base, and Luke Fortner, right, so they trade him. They get good depth turn around and yesterday they trade, you know, the right tackle swing tackled free back to the eagles.
Speaker 3:Right back to the eagles the team that he used to play for for a draft pick and that's that's a player they were going to cut. So they've they're not looking at positive depth in a draft pick for two players they were going to cut. I I don't know how anyone can be upset with that. That's fantastic roster building. The players might not, you know, work out the, you know, saund players might not work out. Saunders might not two-gap like he's supposed to and we might give up 250 rushing, but on paper he's working to make the team better. You've got to respect the hell out of that at the end of preseason. So I'm extremely, extremely well thought of. When it comes to the front office, I really think they're a step above. Especially, we're used to like three steps above, keep playing on a completely different field. Um, it's exciting to have guys who can do all that and I think that proves their respect. You know what I mean. How he's not calling and dealing with anyone he thinks is a jackass. He's probably the best gm in the game. He's got the super bowl rings to count. Some people will be like, oh, they're not that good. They run the ball. You know, with the running a jackass. He's probably the best GM in the game. He's got the Super Bowl rings to count. Some people will be like, oh, they're not that good, they run the ball with the running quarterback and they got Saquon Barlow. Okay, well, he made it happen. He's the same guy who keeps drafting all the Georgia defenders and the team stays good. What a concept. He's talked about that so many times. They come in. They already have camaraderie, they already have chemistry, they play good defense together. When that guy, the guy with all the wins, the Super Bowl wins is comfortable with your GM, comfortable doing deals with him, I think we fleeced the Cleveland Browns. I don't think we overpaid at all. And then you look at what the Cleveland Browns did with those draft picks. That's validating what I think, in my opinion, because in the past, look at when the Jaguars traded jaylen ramsay, we had extra first round draft picks.
Speaker 3:Caleb on chase on's playing on his third team, still not sacking the quarterbacking games that matter, uh, etn, we're talking about trading them. You know what I'm saying. Like that's the reality behind what happens when you trade for extra picks and you don't go get the players that you think are better and everything that gladstone's done, just who doesn't respect him. I guess you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I think initially on you saw people make fun of them like oh, this you know, baby who's like. But you know, boss, baby vibes almost like it's not, it's a real weird vibe. He's not that he's odd or out there, but that's him. That's genuine. And in, when you're your true self, that's almost sounds like you know, gladstone, I almost had to stop myself there. When you're your organic self, you become the best person. You know, you know what I'm saying. Like that's how he speaks, but that's genuine, that's, that's what he means. And when you're, when you're kind of out there, but it's genuine you are a respected individual, because that's kind of how you get all those mad scientists or philosophers who was comfortable enough being the weird guy sticking themselves out there to find progress or betterment. That's all James Lutzen is doing with the Jaguars. Sorry for than it needed to be no, no, no, that was great.
Speaker 2:You know, you know what. You know what james gladstone reminds me of jay it's and it's it's. One of tony khan's favorite sayings is he's a sicko. James gladstone is a sicko, and I'd like to think that him and tony khan get along really oh yeah, it functions so much alike in terms of like the new Tony Khan, like the old Tony Khan. Yeah, not Twitter fingers, Tony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm talking about the new Tony Khan, who you can't get him to even mention WWE, right Like it's all about internal, internal, how we're doing here and look at them now.
Speaker 2:Look how well AEW is doing. Look at them now.
Speaker 1:Selling. They sold out the joint at O2 Stadium yesterday. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 3:So I do think it's interesting, though, with the dynamic of the front office and how positive everything is now Like, the big question early on was who has final say, Right? So someone does have final say, and there's going to become a time where someone makes that final say decision and it's not going to be well well taken by the other parties. So I think that that's when we're going to see our first version of, like where do we go from here? What do they how, right?
Speaker 3:how does an odd group of individuals? Because the owner for as much say as he says he has, he doesn't know what's going on, right? So we got the guys, we got the head coach, we got the head coach, we got Buscelli and we got Gladstone. Three people are making one decision, but someone's got the final say. Depending on who you talk to, it changes by the day when that decision's made and it's two to one. But the decision maker goes with his own decision and it's a bad decision.
Speaker 3:Where do the Jaguars go from there? Because right now it is all sunshine and roses. Like I said, our optimism is just blaring through the roof. Everyone's so excited for what could be, but it's like at work when things are good, everybody's buddy buddy. But the second something hits the fan. There's a little tension and it's not, you know, not as fun to go to. So I do think that when it does come to the respect and the success of the Jaguars, it's going to come from that internal focus. But everything we've seen from now seems to be like it's three dudes who get along really well, um, and when you do come to some kind of disagreement, um, I think that there's going to be good conversation around it and like they're going to be cool with it, moving forward, like they'll understand the whys to, to accept it, it instead of having that disdain or hate for one another.
Speaker 2:And how long, Jay on here, have we been wanting this youth movement Because of Shad Khan's obsession with the past? That's why we were so terrified. Maybe Bill Belichick is going to be the guy, Because he loves Bill Belichick, he loved Tom Coughlin and the way that he did things, so getting this regime in and and with, you know, glad. So he's our age, you know he's 35, so it's like he is part of it and not to say that we know football the way that timmy clapstone does, but like he's part of this generation where we have all sat back and kind of seen what doesn't work. So he's very much aware of that, obviously coming from a very successful organization. So you know I. So he's very much aware of that, obviously coming from a very successful organization. So you know, I think he's the perfect guy for the job. So yeah, but that's a good point.
Speaker 2:Like what happens when they they lose two in a row. They lose two, two of three. You know what happens then and then then we'll really find out, but you know everything so far. Jay looks solid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you, you hit the nail on the head about how many times we've had that conversation. We had to hammer that into spaces, right, when we're going to spaces. Earlier this year about James Gladstone, everybody was like, why go with such a young option? That's our age. What's this? Football acumen, is that another?
Speaker 1:And the thing we kept coming back to in the spaces was well, hell, you know, we were going with these dinosaurs in the past and it looked where it got us right, like it never worked long term. You know, we see a glimmer of success for a year and all of us like and Dilla may can even speak on this, on how he felt. But in the back of our mind, even after that short stint of success, we always felt like, okay, it's going to fall off the cliff next year, like this isn't going to like last right, like something is going to happen and this is not a long-term thing that's going to be, you know. So let's just, let's just bask in it right now, cause this might be a one-year thing With Gladstone now.
Speaker 1:I do get more of a sense now that if we do have success, I feel like it will be more long-term, you know, with just how he's operating and stuff. Like I don't get that sense that, like I got with Tom Coughlin and Balky that it would be a one-year type of thing. So that's pretty good, but yeah, like that's what I always ended up feeling like, even when we had success. Like I just knew like and we've said it many, many times on this podcast feel like we're gonna come back and go like win five games next year, you know, after like going to this afc championship or something like that.
Speaker 2:Listen last year was the toughest season for us dilla we, because we were essentially out of it so early like we released the least amount of episodes that we'd done and we had even discussed just converting this to a all-encompassing NFL podcast after the Trent Baalke decision was made. So it's like you know, what more can we? Did we really have to sit through here? So like to have again like the sense of of at least positivity is so nice, especially when it was all doom and gloom, like you said, on that day of that strange Zoom call.
Speaker 2:I want to first off a little news. I mean, this doesn't come out until Wednesday, but Kenny Pickett was traded to the Raiders. Yep, the Browns just shipped him over there. There's a little talk, jay, I don't know if you have any, if you have an opinion on this as well. Some of these quarterbacks, like Kyle Trask, I think, is going to be available. Do you guys have any input on who you'd like to see the Jaguars maybe taking a stab at? Or are you okay with the backup room as it is now?
Speaker 3:I kind of have the opinion if your backup's playing it don't matter, but have the opinion if your backup's playing it don't matter. Uh, but I do think like, if we look up the backup market, jamis winston can win football games in the nfl, so like I wouldn't be upset if they go that way. Um, the issues when you do go that way is the the second trevor has a bad game or makes a bad throw, the like we told you crowd is going crazy and and sometimes that's not worth it, especially if it's, like you know, short-term injury, short-term second string starter. Uh, kyle trask, I think he's better than nick mullins. Nick mullins is apparently here because he knows the offense, um, and knowing the offense helps trevor get through a new playbook. Uh, you know someone to talk to besides the coaches when it comes to picking your brain. So I would think in like I've heard that they've had that idea. Someone who's worked with Cohen in the past recently, his last year obviously knows the offense. I would absolutely go that route Because of where we are located in Jacksonville, you'll still have some crowd. That's like. Well, trevor's playing bad, put the Florida Gator quarterback in, which is ridiculous. But that's the reality of that too, like a lot of the Jaguar fans are good old Florida Gator quarterback in, which is ridiculous, but that's the reality of that too. Like a lot of the Jaguar fans are good old boy Gator fans and that's just the way. They think the Gators are the best and we got to try them. If our guys are stinking, um, so I guess that kind of stinks too, but those are kind of where I'd be at otherwise. I mean I stick with the room.
Speaker 3:I do think that if it like, if we want to talk about the third and fourth quarterback that cut Johnny Wolford today, I would put Seth Hennigan on the practice squad. Johnny Wolford's played NFL games, but so has Nick Mullins, so if he's playing, I mean we're on two quarterbacks injured. You know what I mean. It's a long lost season anyway, so you might as well develop someone on the practice squad. I think that if you run johnny wolford, who physically can't see over the offensive line sometimes, you're just what's the point? So, um, overall it's backup quarterback. I think it's kind of like backup tackles. Yeah, you know the value is only so much there, but I do think you know if you're going for the winner, you need someone in case you're. We talked about his injury history. The quarterback's fragile and you think you got good enough for us to compete. Jameis comes in. Jameis would play a good backup role. He wouldn't be someone who caused issues himself, but the outside noise could be the issue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, be entertaining with him, and him and Travis too. People would eat that up. Maybe some positive things on the C block of get up or something like that. But, jay, what do you think? Any input on what they should do at backup? Again, we share the same sentiment too If we're on the backup quarterback, something has gone wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, nah, I mean like, yeah, as much as it pains me to say this about a Gator, but yeah, trask is intriguing, you know, I would definitely look at that route for sure. And yeah, I mean like Jameis. Jameis is a good option, you know they can get you through. You know, if you cross that bridge, hopefully two games or something, you know, hopefully it ain't long term. But Jameis is a guy that can get you through two games or what have you. But I think, like, the longer he's on the field, the worst he gets as a quarterback in terms of when he has to come off the bench as a backup. But two games is fine.
Speaker 1:I would say Jameis as well. But yeah, I mean, like I think if I had to rank them between the two that Dilla mentioned, I would say give me, yeah, give me Jameis man, because I can't put the Florida Gator, give me jamis man, because I I can't put the florida gator, I can't put him as the. And another thing, too is um, yeah, man, I don't want to hear all of that noise from the gators fans which is like, ah, yeah, trevor sucks. Uh, we, we need to get the gator out there, give him a shot this day I'm not ready to hear all of that honestly preach preach.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. Well, j Jay, we have one more question, if you want to get to it before we wrap up for the night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, dilla, what are your most notable takeaways from this roster overall, when you consider everything we've seen from training camp in the preseason, otas, even before OTAs, could you give us a general thought process on your overall takeaways from the roster overall?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, first off, when I sit back and I look at all the people who have been getting reps with the ones, reps with the twos, the Jaguars are going to play their best 11 on both sides of the ball. They don't care about draft pick, they don't care about contract. They're going to play their best 11 on both sides of the ball. They don't care about draft pick, they don't care about contract. They're going to put their best team out there. So we've seen that with the offensive line. They've all played multiple positions and, quite frankly, most of them have played it well. What it like? What an intriguing surprise. What like crazy. What happens when you get the bad coaches out of here, right? What? And I think that you see a team that wants to compete. It's the most physical Jaguars team I've seen in a long time, especially in the preseason. They're out there hitting. That's good to see. That makes you feel good. You want to have a tough football team. You want your dudes to be tougher than the other dudes you play. So, from the fan aspect, you love what you see there In terms of how the roster's built. You saw them. They went off, rip and just straight up, added tackles, right, and we've already seen one traded away. So it kind of leads you to chumo is probably going to stay on the roster, javon foster is going to be out of here and then you have a couple guys with position flexibility, whether it be jonah monaheim, um, or wyatt millum, right. So draft picks, uh, late round draft picks and free agents that are on the low. You got Mercari, you got Hainsey. They spent a little bit more money on those. They were in their wave one of free agency, but they're probably more like wave two, wave three, guys who were brought in to compete.
Speaker 3:A lot of the question marks we have on our roster. If you look at it, it's guys who are equally talented, but we're looking for gamers. You know what I mean. We're looking for dudes who go out there and play. If you would have told me four or five years ago, andrew Wingard has a chance to be the starting safety in 2025, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense and I'm okay with it. Who would believe that? He was kind of a cult hero, wannabe kid rock fun for what he was, but not a real great football player? The guy's gritty as hell. He's someone you were okay with having in the back end, the cornerbacks. We've talked about the receivers and the cornerbacks. We got a couple guys, one to four, and after that it falls off off hard. We're all feeling okay with how the roster looks, though, because, one, they look head over heels way better than they did last year. Right, like it feels better.
Speaker 3:Um, earlier you talked about how, when the jaguars got good, it felt like it was gonna fall off. You know the train tracks at any moment, the the foundation's there. He spoke specifically when he was hired about raising the floor. He's done that. When you raise your floor and then you start sprinkling in good vets here and there, your floor continues to rise. Right, it looks like the guys who are out there cleaning the windows on a high rise. That thing gets pulled up more and more, and the closer you get to the top, the less pulling you got to do to get there, and that's what that's. That's the trajectory the jaguars are on.
Speaker 3:Our foundation is good. Our foundation is better than it's been in a long time, right, and now we're going to continue to sprinkle players in and get better and better. So the construction of the roster it makes me we could go into a deeper breakdown, but just seeing the transformation from year one to year two, knowing we don't have a first round pick next year but, like James said, three third round picks right, a second round pick. Even though we don't have a first round pick, we have four or five top hundred picks. We're going to get better next year without a first round pick and we're probably going to have the most entertaining year of Jaguars football we've had in a while, except for those two years where we made runs, right, and we were all like I can't believe this is happening. I can't believe this is happening. Instead of wow, we're those guys. We're like actually good, right.
Speaker 3:Those years, as a fan, I went to every single playoff game because I knew I might as well do it now. Who knows when I'm going to be able to do it again, right, I don't feel like I have to do that now. Like Phil said, doesn't have season tickets this year, buddy, that's all right, because you know what. Them playoff tickets are going to cost as much as your season tickets and I know you're going to be there. Looks like a good investment. You feel me and I'll be right there with you. I don't have season tickets either right now because I work retail. I work on the weekends sometimes and it kind of messes up my flow. But if the jaguars give me a reason to go through the hassle of changing my schedule, I'm gonna be there, and if they're give us a reason, give me a reason to give you the money I'm going, I'm going to give it to you.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and that's what I see with the roster. The roster is better than it was, which is all I'm asking for. I understand that it takes more than a year to completely flip a football team. It probably is going to take two or three years for us to be as good as we want to be, when you think of the perennial elites in the NFL. If we want to get there, we won't be there next year either, but we might be close. We might feel like we're there some weeks and again play 500 football.
Speaker 3:I swear to God, I'll do some stupid stuff for the Jaguars if they play 500 football. Man, I will. I'm getting older. I'm 33 years old. I've been doing this stuff since I was 18, 19, 20, making content Give me a reason to act like I used to, because I'll do it, I'll do it and so far they're doing that. So I appreciate them. I appreciate you guys. Everything feels good. You know what I mean, and I think that's how sports are supposed to be. It's entertainment. We shouldn't sulk and be depressed because of something we enjoy that doesn't give us anything back.
Speaker 2:So yeah, competitive football signs of getting better. You know, let's just have a good time, man. Um, I do actually have one more question before I let you go, because we've always been jay and I have we always. We felt like even dating back to the jags den days, we were always kind of on the forefront of like, hey, they're gonna have to get a stadium, they're gonna have to get a stadium, they're going to have to get a stadium. When is this going to happen? So I want to kind of get like what are your thoughts? And not just the stadium overall, but kind of like just to bring it back to a community standpoint the growth of Jacksonville, because we're seeing downtown develop a little bit, and that's good, that's a great thing. The stadium is coming. How are you feeling?
Speaker 2:I remember one of the things that really stuck stood out to me. I went to one of those neighborhood things with with Mark Lamping and I asked him hey, if we pay for the stadium, we going to get our London game back, second game back, and he just like walked right around the question, didn't give me an answer. I was like, okay, so no, but how do you feel about, again, overall growth of Jacksonville, but also this stadium in the future. I wasn't super excited about the design because I've been to SoFi and that stadium sucks. Man. I don't know if you've been to SoFi Stadium. It's terrible, it's one of the worst.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I haven't been, but my friends that went. They have the same sentiments as you.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it was the game we played a few years back, but when we got absolutely destroyed the urban mire year, but, um, yeah, that's when I was there and it's a terrible experience, um, but uh but, yeah, what's your overall feeling?
Speaker 3:again on the growth, yeah, like if we completely ignore, like, the details of the stadium. Just acknowledge the fact that we're gonna have a in quote state-of-the-art stadium which is gonna bring so much more business entertainment outside of the football season Head over heels. That's the biggest thing Jacksonville needs is a reason for people to go downtown. That's not the Jacksonville Jaguars, we all agree because you go on your 10 with preseason home games. Give or take 10 home games a year. You go down there those 10 days downtown's popping. It's a good vibe, especially if the jaguars are playing good football. You have any other reason to go down there and we're seeing that now. They've. All they've done is closed, the gate taken down, some escalators, but the high rises are starting to pop up. You're starting to see the foundations of these businesses rise. That's the kind of stuff that is going to continue to make jacksonville a miserable place to drive in the afternoon. You know what I'm saying. Like the growth is going to be crazy and the growth is going to be good in that outside of football, like when you talk about community, our friends and our listeners and everyone who watches the stuff we do. We're friends and we talk to them 365 days a year. We play football for three or four months a year.
Speaker 3:The community of Jacksonville, the things we've done, the things I've done on the internet whether it be raising money or sending books to a school that stuff is super cool, right. So that's like really like, that's life-fulfilling, you know what I mean which is a really cool opportunity, and that's Twitter itself x, whatever you want to call it. It's a pretty terrible app these days, right, but the reason I'm still there is the community we've built and the things we've done are so good that I don't want to get rid of it. I mean, I don't tweet nearly as much as I used to. I still tweet more than most people, but it's a. It's a place I really enjoy.
Speaker 3:You can ask genuine questions, get genuine answers. It's a place I really enjoy. You can ask genuine questions, get genuine answers. You can shoot the breeze right, so you can do so much more outside of football and downtown's the same way, right. So if we can make downtown a place we want to be all year round and we know that that's going to happen through the success of the Jaguars and we had to get the stadium built, and that's why it should be a taxpayer-funded thing. It shouldn't have maybe been as much. Taxpayers Again, that's a whole different conversation, but in the slate of the real world that's how it works. The return on investment is going to be incredible. We're going to get old one day Most of us are still going to be local and we're going to be proud that we're from Jacksonville. We're going to remember what Jacksonville was, we're going to enjoy what Jacksonville is and we're going to reminisce one day and we're going to be like yeah, like, and we had something to do with that.
Speaker 3:I don't care what anyone says, because you touched on it earlier we have a small market. Because we have a small market, we can do a lot of cool things that other places can't do are organic and communal aspirations, all the way down to the clown stuff. Like people think I started the clown stuff. All I did was share the idea. That was someone else's idea and we went ESPN front page. People still talk about it. I mean, pat McAfee still calls Jacksonville clown town, like because the Colts can't win there, and he makes fun of his own team every single year. That stuff doesn't happen in Dallas. That stuff doesn't happen in LA. It doesn't happen in New York because there's no sense of community and I think that make downtown a place to visit, just like we make Twitter a place to visit. You only get good things from that. You know what I'm saying? Overall, super pumped. Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3:Having me on, I'm sorry, I can get yappy um you're good back in the back in the zone with the podcasting. Um, yeah, man, it's just, it's overall it feels good and shout out to shotgun for doing the right thing, because we deserve to feel good. The city of jacksonville, the people of jacksonville, jacksonville fans, jaguar fans, all over the world. There's no reason we shouldn't get to enjoy the parody that the NFL is supposed to provide, with a salary cap and everyone you equal spending and moving forward. Like we should get some of that too Genuinely. We deserve it. We really do deserve it, yeah 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Very, very excited about what's going on down there and you know you're talking about. Like you said, we won't get into the details of the deal, but we're not Buffalo, Right, Jay?
Speaker 1:Right, we got out of break.
Speaker 3:It's true, and that's what I thought of in my head while I was complaining. It would be Buffalo, but I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. No-transcript heading into the season.
Speaker 3:For sure. Like I said, appreciate you guys having me on. You can find me on Twitter at e-dilla x e-dilla podcast. If we do drop our podcast episodes, it'll be on every single podcast website you use your favorite. We're there, but It'll be on every single podcast website you use. Your favorite were there, but this year you'll see a lot of stuff on Twitchcom. So Twitchcom backslash, bold Tech Pod. I'll definitely be hitting things up on Twitter because I really do depend on the chat for that kind of stuff, but I think that's what makes it really fun. It's really inclusive. Drop me a follow on there. That's what I'm growing now. And then shout out to the boys. Drop me a follow on there. That's what I'm growing now. And then shout out to the boys.
Speaker 2:Like I said, thanks for having me on. Absolutely Everything will be in the show notes of this episode and make sure you click the Linktree link for Touchdown Jaguars to follow us on socials. Use that promo code Touchdown Jaguars over on SeatGeek Save yourself $20 on your first purchase. But, folks, that is my co-host, James Johnson, and our amazing guest Dilla. Thank you so much for joining us. Don't forget to tune in to Touchdown Jaguars for every Jaguar touchdown and we'll see you next time, guys.
