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Touchdown Jaguars!
Touchdown Jaguars!
Episode 125: Chiefs/Jaguars Week 5 Analysis - Jags Beat AFC Champs on MNF + Trade Tyson Campbell
We seize a national-stage win over Kansas City, then flip the cornerback room by trading Tyson Campbell for Greg Newsome. Trevor Lawrence steadies a rough start with his legs, hits BTJ for a dime, and caps the night with an unforgettable scramble for a game winning touchdown.
With the last few days being a roller coaster, we covered the win and the following topics:
• Trade rationale, contract relief, pick swap details for shipping Campbell to Cleveland for Newsome
• Why Newsome is an upgrade on the field
• Cornerback rotation and roles after the move
• Trevor’s legs as a catalyst for rhythm
• BTJ’s clutch sideline catch and trust building
• Devin Lloyd’s 99-yard pick-six turning point
• Penalty discipline trend and coaching emphasis
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James Johnson and Phil Barrera bring you the best and most up to date Jacksonville Jaguars news. "Touchdown Jaguars!" is a tribute to the prospective ownership group "Touchdown Jacksonville!" In 1991, the NFL announced plans to add two expansion teams and "Touchdown Jacksonville!" announced its bid for a team, and Jacksonville was ultimately chosen as one of five finalists. In November 1993, the NFL owners voted 26–2 in favor of awarding the 30th franchise to Jacksonville. James and Phil have been fans of the franchise ever since and have had the honor (and sometimes dishonor) of covering the team professionally since 2017. The rest as they say, is history.
Welcome to the Touchdown Jaguars Podcast. Here are your hosts, James Johnson and Phil Smith.
SPEAKER_00:All right, all right, all right, all right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 125 of the Touchdown Jaguars podcast, which is actually, at least this first half is a re-recording of our Victory Tuesday episode. Um, because there was some news that just broke in terms of the Jacksonville Jaguars making the trade, which we'll get into James Gladstone keeping me busy here. Um, but this is a re-recorded episode here where we will add that trade news in the second half of the podcast that I recorded is still salvageable. I'll keep that, but this first half I gotta re-record for the sake of getting this news out on the trade that was made today. Um, big time trade, in regards to um helping out that secondary. So I am James Johnson. If I haven't previously said that one half of the touchdown Jack Wars podcast riding this one solo, shout outs to my co-host Phil Barrera, who has his hands tied in some things right now. But I told him, you know, fear not. Um your man's can handle this one, especially with this one um being a little bit easier to handle in the sense that it was a win, man. And it was a big time win that we'll always remember. As the Jacksonville Jaguars were able to handle business on the national spot, like ESPN in town, all that good stuff for Monday night football, and overtake the AFC champions of last year and the Kansas City Chiefs in a thriller and a um, you know, you could a lot of people will say it was an upset because the Jaguars weren't favored it, even though they were home and um they had a streak of wins coming into the game, but um, that's neither here or neither there. But the Jacksonville Jaguars able to get a 31-21 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs um on the national spotlight on ESPN, and um they did it in an amazing way, by the way. You know, got the ball with less than what two minutes left, and uh Trevor Lawrence makes some career highlight plays, more than one actually, in this one game, um, to get the Jacksonville Jaguars over the hump, get the Jacksonville Jaguars to lead and give us a moment in Jacksonville Jaguars history and everbane field history that we will never forget. So, more on that later, we'll talk about that later. But man, am I riding a high from that alone, from the game alone, and then we make this trade uh which can help us out in a big way on that defensive side of the ball as well. So, before we get into the news um in terms of the trade and the game itself, I will plug our handles real quick here. You can follow me at sportsgrind underscore done on Twitter. You can follow Phil at Phil the Filipino on Twitter. You can follow our podcast handle on Twitter under TD Jaguars Pod, and we have an official site where you can find written content, which we haven't posted in a while, but when we post it, it will be on www.touchdownjads.com and our archived episodes go on there as well. As you all know, we are on most of the popular platforms um out there in terms of where you can hear this podcast. And if there are any new listeners, feel free uh to um rate, comment, subscribe, all of that. And we are glad to have you. Um, as for the old listeners, we're always glad to have you all as well, and we welcome you back. And um, yeah, man, we just hope that we could continue to give you all the latest and jags news um that you need. And yeah, man, for those new listeners, we hope to become one of your permanent sources for the latest in Jacksonville Jaguars news, and we welcome you all with open arms. So, in terms of those platforms, you can find us on um iTunes or Apple Podcasts, however you want to word it, um Spotify, of course, uh Amazon Music. If you have your Alexa devices, you could uh get us on there. Um, if we aren't on one of your favorite platforms, because I know we have some people that listen from outside of the United States. If we aren't on one of your favorite platforms forms, point us in that direction, and we'll be happy to do the best we can to get on that platform so we could give you your weekly fix of Jacksonville Jaguars news here at a touchdown Jaguars podcast. As for the news that broke and it caused me to have to do a re-recording here, the Jacksonville Jaguars here about two, three hours ago, um, maybe two and a half hours ago, um, it's midnight here, by the way, um 1222 to be exact, um, went ahead and made a trade that kind of took us by surprise here um and kind of just came out of the blue. It although we felt like this particular player wouldn't be a part of the long-term plans because he is a player from the previous regime. Um, but the Jacksonville Jaguars and James Gladstone making headlines again, um, as if they haven't done that enough uh for a lot of the right reasons because they're winning, right? And they seem to have turned things around. But the Jacksonville Jaguars make another trade with the Cleveland Browns, a team uh that sounds quite familiar, right? People from um, you know, back in the draft, uh we made a trade with them. But he continues to do business with the Cleveland Browns and Eric Berry over there as they traded cornerback Tyson Campbell to the Cleveland Browns uh for cornerback. Greg Newsome, a former first-round pick. Tyson Campbell, a former second-round pick. So these are two guys who are in the same draft class, by the way, um drafted um not too far from each other in terms of where they were taken. But uh they will be sending Tyson Campbell to, and this is according to Adam Schefter, the Cleveland Browns for Greg Newsom and um the Jets 2026 sixth-round pick that the Browns acquired from the Jets in some way, shape, or form. And um the Browns on their end, of course, as I mentioned, of course, they get Tyson Campbell, and they get um a 2026 seventh round pick from the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now, before we get into the stuff on the field, which you know that's the most important part, right? And that's um, you know, the part I'm most excited to talk about, we'll discuss the implications, right, in terms of what this does for the Jacksonville Jaguars financially, of course, because you know, although the salary cap is fake, um, this trade does feel like um part of it is to help the Jaguars with future cap space. Um, now in terms of the immediate implications for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Newsom comes with a 13.3 million uh cap hit, and he's on his uh fifth-year option, um, if I'm not mistaken. Um, so he basically is on the last year of his deal, and you know, uh he'll be a free agent in 2026. So, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars um, you know, taking a hit there in terms of um what they have to pay him for, you know, not even a year's worth of service. But at the same time, it gets the Jacksonville Jaguars off of Tyson Campbell's contract that Trent Balkey gave him. And, you know, this is just still James Gladstone washing his hands and watching this, uh washing the stench of Trent Balkey off of this team, that you know, it some part of that stench will linger, and it's gonna take some time to get off. And week by week, month by one, uh month, James Gladstone is washing that stench away from this team and getting more and more of Trent Balkey's picks out of here. You know, some of these players are salvageable and worth keeping, but the ones that are hurting the team the most, and when I say hurting, I don't just mean like on the field, but in terms of hurting the team's growth and you know, limiting, you know, them financially as well, um, because Trent Balkey, of course, wanting to make it look like he did a great job or that he was good at his job, um, re-signed a lot of people that he shouldn't have. And James Gladstone is working his behind off to um free up cap space and free up the finances. And again, we do know the cap, the salary cap is is fake, but you know, at the same time, still, you know, to some degree, you can't be reckless with where you put your money. So there is that. But as we all know, Balkey signed Campbell to a four-year$76.5 million extension that included$53.4 million in guarantees, and that's the key here. The Jacksonville Jaguars getting out of that long-term investment, saving some money next year towards next year's salary cap because they, you know, they have to make some moves next year in terms of you know, trying to keep Devin Low and maybe keeping Travis ETN, you know, or some other guys that you know they also uh should be interested in keeping as well. So it helps them in that regard in terms of the long term. And I just wanted to get that out of the way, too, of like what some of the thought concept would be. And also, too, when you look at that contract, it you know, it was clear that Tyson just, you know, wasn't performing to it, right? And then, you know, there's always the injury concerns too. He hasn't been the healthiest player, which I have said, and hey, I'm a Georgia Bulldog, have said that many, many times, a Georgia Bulldog fan. And, you know, Tyson Campbell is one of those guys where I didn't exactly love the pick when we made it, and year after year, he just never really made the strides he needed to make in terms of ball skills, right? It feels like he's still the same player he was as a rookie, or not that far off from where he was as a rookie in terms of the ball skills. And when you invest this kind of money that I just discussed in the Tyson or a player, a cornerback or safety or any kind of defensive back, the ball skills have to be there, right? Like you can't lack ball skills and get paid this kind of money. Um, so this regime who has no who have no ties to Tyson Campbell, and they uh they've said some good things about him in training camp. Camp Neely praised him. Um but when the lights went on, I think part of it is they realized that he was not gonna live up to that contract, right? Um, but he was given every opportunity to live up to it, um, but just gave up too many big plays because, and for the same reason, many, many times, of just um the ball skills are lacking, and that's where you will see a difference between him and Newsom. I think I can remember watching Newsom this year, um, and I liked him coming out of college, out of Northwestern, I believe it was. Um, but I actually have seen one of his games in full because I think I watched the Bengals to um get a you know like a glimpse of them before we played them. Uh, so I was just kind of doing some film study, and Newsom had a pretty good game, you know, went back and forth uh with um Jamar Chase in that game, had a breakup or maybe two, um forced him out of bounds one time. And of course, you know, Chase is gonna get his too, but Newsome is a player that you could tell in that game that has that dog in him that was ready to meet the challenge. And we all saw what Chase and Company did to Tyson Campbell, by the way. Um, but and it is a little different because Newsom sees uh Chase twice a year, right? So there are some familiarities. So in his defense, in Tyson's defense, um, he hasn't had as many matchups and as many opportunities uh to face Chase back to back like Newsome has. But just Newsom, you could just tell he's always up for the challenge, not just against Chase and Higgins and you know all of them, but you could just tell throughout the totality of his career, anybody you put in front of him, he's always been up for the challenge. And clearly the ball skills are better than Tyson, right? A lot of times when you look at Tyson, either he's trailing the defender, trying to catch up to the defender, and his eyes are never on the ball, right? A lot of times when you watch him, and of course, that depends on like what kind of technique you're using and and what have you. Um, so you know, there is that. But a lot of times where Tyson's eyes need to be on the ball, should I say they're not, right? And that's a big, big problem that's plagued him throughout his career, and he struggled to fix it, right? Whereas Newsom, who is also very scrappy, no, he's a guy that differs from Tyson there, right? Um, he he gets his ball, his eyes on the ball late, and you know, he can sense he has that awareness a little bit, a little bit better awareness of when the ball is coming his way and when to get his head around and try and make a play on the ball and so on and so forth. So while he's a guy that's smaller than Tyson, um he does bring better ball skills to the table, uh, which is a much needed addition for this defense, which is already good at takeaways. But when you talk about takeaways, guess what? The key thing is those takeaways aren't coming from the cornerback position. So now we have made this trade, another trade with the Cleveland Browns. And um, you know, now we got a group. I I like this group now, you know, and me and Phil said it earlier in the year. As we near the trade deadline, the two spots we were looking at was like defensive tackle and cornerback. So cornerback has been addressed, at least for now, temporarily for this year. And now we have a group that um a fiery group that I like a little bit more than we previously had. You know, you have to feel like maybe this means that number one, or excuse me, he was the number two overall pick, but number one pick for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter, who um did a great job on the national spotlight, by the way, even though like the stats aren't super crazy, but people got to see what he's capable of on both of uh both sides of the ball, and people also now saw a reason to get behind the hype with the casual fans, right? Those people who don't watch the Jacksonville Jaguars more on him later, probably. But you know, you have to feel like Travis Hunters are gonna get more um opportunities at cornerback, his snaps is gonna increase. Um, somebody who I actually talked about and praised a little bit, and he was one of the better graded players in the last game at Monday Night Football against the Chiefs. Monteric Brown, who battled an injury earlier in the year, but is back. Um Tarek Brown, a guy who had a great training camp. Uh, yeah, I feel like you'll see more of him as well, and a way more cheaper, way more affordable option than Tyson Campbell, right? In terms of the salary he's on. And then you add in the new guy in Newsom, and then you can't forget Jordan Lewis, who's playing, although you know he plays mostly at Nickel, is playing at an all-pro level. So I like that group when you talk about those guys I just mentioned. I like that group a lot more than I like them with Tyson Campbell in the mix. All right, so now for part two of the show, as we'll get into the game itself, and or better yet, um, I'll run through the stats, um, give some thoughts on both sides of the ball, the offense and defense, then give you all my key takeaways here. So starting with Trevor Lawrence, um, who you know will be a part of one of my key takeaways here. We'll get into that later, but just to go through the stats here, um, he was 18 of 25, uh through for I need glasses here, 221 yards, one touchdown, uh, had one pick. Uh, he was sacked three times. And uh the pick was, you know, one that a lot of people question, national and casual and local fans uh question because it it was pass interference uh to the T and the refs didn't call it. And you know, that that was one of the things coming into this game that we thought we have to deal with is overcoming the refs because that that's always an uphill battle for whatever reason when you play the Kansas City Chiefs. We'll get into that more so later. Um then on to the rushing stats, guess who led the way? None other than Trevor Lawrence with 10 carries, um, 10 very important carries, it feels like, for 54 yards and two rushing touchdowns. So he accounted for 14 of the Jaguars touchdowns. Well, I mean, he accounted for all of them because, you know, aside from the Devin Lloyd interception, right? He accounted for all of the ones on offense in some way, shape, or form. But two of them he uh he gained with his feet on the ground. Something that we've been really, really, really wanting to see from him is him as a contributor um in the run game and contributing and using his legs um to help him get going and help him get out of um these situations that we have seen him in in the past. Then not too far behind him was Travis ETN for um he had 12 carries for 49 yards. So the running backs weren't really like able to get going like we seen in the past. Um so we'll talk about that a little bit. And then um, the only other person to register rushing stats for the Jaguars was Bachel Tutan, four carries for six yards. The top receivers of the day or of the night uh were Brian Thomas Jr., who had a monumental catch, um, a catch that we'll always remember from Trevor late in the fourth quarter, again, by the way, kind of like they did with the Texans, right? Um but Brian Thomas Jr. led the way in receiving four receptions for 80 yards. So he's he's getting better with the drops. He's easing up on that 100-yard figure that you know we're used to seeing from him at least last year in his rookie year. Uh so things are improving there. Travis Hunter, who also answered the bright light stage, right? Um, that we all know is ESPN and in primetime football. Um had three catches for 64 yards. Now, look, of course, like statistically, that that don't look super crazy, but it's the the way and the impact of the three catches he had, and just seeing him also on the opposite side of the ball make an impact there. Um, he certainly gave the national media and the national viewers the show that they were looking for because a lot of people questioned the Jacksonville Jaguars decision when you you got the people who just watch the box scores and don't actually watch the games. A lot of people were questioning what Travis Hunter's usage was heading into this game and his contributions and what the Jaguars gave up to get him. And they kind of now can start to see the vision, right? Some of them still probably don't see it fully, but those who have eyes and who actually watch the game can kind of see the vision and where this is going and what this is brewing up to be, right? And then third on the list was Brent Strange. He only had one catch for 22 yards, which was like in the first drive. Um, but he ended up leaving the game and is now on IR. Uh so he'll be out for four weeks on IR. And the Jacksonville Jaguars also um to kind of correspond with the move. Uh they signed Tim Jones, um, former familiar face to the organization. So um going to injured reserve, Brenton Strange coming on to the practice squad, Tim Jones. They released Eric Uzakanma off of the practice squad to make uh the room for Tim Jones addition to the practice squad. So, you know, Trevor Lawrence getting a familiar face there. Um, I think one of the guys he went to the Bahamas with, right? I know it was a lot of controversy surrounding Tim Jones' name when um we had the situation with the the Houston Texans last year, uh where somebody who shall remain unnamed um hit Trevor Lawrence in a very, very violent way and uh a very, very disgusting way that we all just don't like to um go back and review, right? But anyway, continuing on to the defense, um Foyer Aluican uh led the way with tackles. Uh, not a surprise, right? I had 14, seven of which were solo. Um, Eric Murray was second on the list for tackles with eight and five of his were solo. Dewey Wingard, pretty active with seven tackles, which makes sense when you're playing the Chiefs. Uh Tyson Campbell, seven tackles himself. We'll talk about him in one of those tackles as well, probably. So those were your guys who had seven tackles or more. And then on the Chiefs' end, Patrick Mahomes was 29 of 41, threw for 318 yards, had um one touchdown, threw one pick, one historic pick, too, that'll forever live in our minds. We'll talk about that later. But we knew coming into this game, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars, while it was going to be hard to keep up that trend of three picks or three takeaways a game, we needed one big one. Um, and we boy did we ever get it. So there's that. Um Patrick Mahomes, much like Trevor Lawrence on his end, led the Chiefs in rushing. So it was a battle of Russian quarterbacks here in a little bit of a way. But uh six carries for 60 yards, and then Kareem Hunt was right behind him with seven for 49. Pacheco had seven for 36 yards. Um, two of their um touchdowns came from Hunt, and one came from Patrick Mahomes on the ground, that is. And then leading the way on the receiving end was uh Taekwond Thornton, the speed threat, formerly of the New England Patriots, with three catches for 90 yards. So he was just going off in terms of his average. Um, and then there was Travis Kelsey behind him with six, excuse me, seven catches for 61 yards and a touchdown. On their end, defensively, Nick Bolton led the way with 12 tackles, and Shamari Connor uh had seven, so he was behind Bolton in the tackles category. And those are the main key stats here. Um, as we'll get into kind of just um my thoughts and takeaways on um each side of the ball. Uh instead of that, actually, yeah, we'll just go with my three main takeaways because my three main takeaways um will cover a lot of the conversations I would have about the offense, um, defense, and special teams. So uh my three main takeaways will start with the first one. And of course, as I mentioned earlier in the podcast, it was the performance of Trevor Lawrence answering the call. You know, a lot of doubters tuning in to watch, and you know, they they probably had their tweets already in the drafts ready, you know, all the bots and the the national pundits and you know, all of you guys that you see on TV of Stephen A. Smith's um from first take, so on and so forth. And I mean the doubters were there clear as day in the post-game process, right? When you look at ESPN and their analysts and what have you, um, only one took um the Jacksonville Jaguars to win. That was Scott Van uh Van Pelt, who um has Jacksonville ties. Um, so it made sense that he would go with Jacksonville. But Trevor Lawrence answering the call in a high pressure situation, things started rough for him. And well, the team in general, you could tell um the high-pressure atmosphere was something they had to settle into. And Liam kind of mentioned that. Liam Cohen mentioned that um because you know this is the first time they were in the bright lights under Cohen. Um, a lot of people coming into the situation, trying to find out if they're legitimate, you know, if they're a legitimate one lost team. And by the way, you know, that they are now uh top for the top record in football. But yeah, a lot of people questioning and wanting to see if they are a legitimate one-lost team. So it was a lot of pressure coming into the situation. The fans could feel it, of course, the players could feel it, the coaches could feel it. And um, yeah, in that first quarter, it was clear as day that Trevor Lawrence could feel it, right? Um, he had a fumble where he tried to um do his infamous leap over the line, which if you're gonna do it, you got to protect the ball a little bit better, right? Um, I don't know, maybe you jump over the line and cradle it. Like it's a dangerous situation to jump over the line, especially as the quarterback, right? Um, so I guess what I would say, whatever you do, protect the ball in that situation if you're gonna go over the line and uh maybe I don't know, um, maybe draw up a play where we see all the time where there's a delay before you take that leap over the line, right? And you kind of feel out where it is that you can take that leap over the line after just kind of seeing what kind of push your offensive line gets. Uh, we kind of see that all the time. So maybe that would have been a better idea than the approach he took, um, but it's a lesson learned. And um, as a result of that, the Jacksonville Jaguars fell behind 14 to 0 and it caused a lot of panic, right? Now, I'm not saying it caused a lot of panic within the team itself, but I know it caused a lot of panic within the fan base, and that is kind of what comes with when you're playing the AFC champions and you're playing the Chiefs, right? That just kind of comes with it. You're playing Angry, you're playing Patrick Mahomes, like you know it's gonna be an uphill battle to recover from a 14-point deficit against them. But again, this is a different Chiefs team, they're a little bit older, um, they're not 100% healthy, and that was something that I kind of kept in mind into halftime. I was like, yeah, I'm ticked off, right? I wish we would have had a better outing and what have you. Um, but this could be much, much worse, right? And this deficit could be a bit more difficult to overcome. But this just I just had to keep in mind, this isn't the same Chiefs team. Um, at least not yet. And we need to give them some respect too, by the way, in a sense that I wouldn't be shocked if this team still makes the playoff. Like they're not out of it, like by any stretch. Now, look, maybe we see a situation where they're gonna be um in the playoffs as a wild card team, because their division, if I can recall, is um doing very well standings-wise um between them and the Chargers and the Broncos. Uh, so yeah, it's it's a lot of um hurdles they have to overcome to get first place. Um, but even if they can't win their division, like it's hard for me to envision them not making the playoffs, right? They'll find a way. They are resilient and they are the Chiefs, and they are only getting healthier, as I mentioned. But going back to my point, right now, this Chiefs team is one that if there were ever a Chiefs team in the last five years or so that you can make a comeback on, it was this one, right? Granted the circumstances, and boy, did the Jacksonville Jaguars do that. So, you know, Trevor Lawrence's start in terms of the fumble, and he also had another one of those just head scratching penalties that I mentioned, where it's like, are you processing the mental part of the game uh where he um of course threw the ball when he was past the line of scrimmage, right? And again, that could that could have been very well nerves, but we've seen that from Trevor Lawrence in the past. So, like it's like is it nerves or is it just Trevor Lawrence just being Trevor Lawrence? And when you just add all of that into the mix between the penalty, which the Jacksonville Jaguars and We'll talk about this later, didn't have a lot of between that penalty um and between the fumble and just getting off to a 0-14 start. The doubts began to creep in people's head in terms of winning the game, and also, you know, what is it that we have at quarterback? And man, did he answer the call? And that, you know, that's what we talked about in the last podcast. Is it's just taking Trevor Lawrence a while to get going in this Liam Cohen offense, and Liam has said this that they're asking a lot up out of him. And I had to put this in the thread with um me and Vez and my nephew and Phil because they were getting upset a little bit too. And rightfully so. I'm not saying that that was wrong of them to do, but I've seen this before. I've been down this road before, I've seen him start slow. And also, too, again, like I think I'm a little bit more lenient when understanding that Shod Cun put Trevor Lawrence in a bad situation where he's had three offensive coordinators, and it's just not gonna like get rolling as fast as people want when you've gone through that many offensive schemes, man. It's just not add that with the fact that Liam has said again, and Troy Aikman said it too. They asked a lot of him in this offense. You know, it might take a little while for him to get cooking. Um, but again, boy, did the pot start getting hot around that second quarter and heading forward in terms of him turning it on, and he was able to start making plays with his legs. And you know, I know Pete Prisco said that some of the plays, you know, he missed some receivers where he scrambled for it. But at the end of the day, who cares? If you come away with points, which he did in these scenarios, who cares, right? Um, and also just for the sake of momentum and getting him going, if you know, a few plays of him using his legs is what gets him going um offensively, and that leads to touchdowns, and that leads to um eventual situations where he's able to hit the receivers as well down the field in the passing game. I'm okay with it, right? All well ends well, right? So he was able to get his rushing ability going, right, which is something we've long, long just been asking for out of him. And this is gonna be the key to saving his career and getting his career going in the right direction. He's gonna be have to he's gonna have to become more of a runner, right? That's what's helped Josh Allen so much in his career. That's what has helped Patrick Mahomes. Uh the older he gets is, you know, there's a lot of times where he has to make plays with his feet. Um, and it's especially something that Trevor Lawrence is gonna have to learn because he is the way he's wired is to go for the home run all the time. And sometimes that's not required, right? We saw it in this game a little bit, you know, trying to go for the home run at times. But just sometimes just take what the offense gives you and keep the drive going with your legs, right? And live to see another set of downs. Even if you miss a receiver here and there in the process of scrambling, that's okay. Live to see another set of downs, get yourself some momentum, and look what happens, right? He had his best game of the season as a result. So after the fumble, and this is another thing, too, and this is kind of as Austin Lane said on um his show, him and Brent's show, this is the Trevor Lawrence experience, too. It's gonna be a roller coaster, right? Like, I think we just gotta wrap our minds around that. You know, I would like for it to be less of a roller coaster, but he's a roller coaster type of quarterback. But after the fumble, man, he got it going, which by the way, the Chiefs scored after the fumble, scored a touchdown at that after the fumble. So that put them at 14 to 0 at that point. But that second drive in the second quarter, shout outs to Trevor, you know, eliminating all of what had previously happened in his mind between um and on the field between the fumble um and punting on um I they I think it was two, three, and outs before that. Good job on his part for eliminating what had previously happened. And Liam has, you know, has really coached this and stressed this, and this is why this team is going to go places, and this is why they're resilient. It's because Liam always has programmed them to, hey, forget what happened last drive, on to the next. One play at a time, one play at a time, and Trevor has said it himself too. And as a result, you know, he um is able to construct a 13-play drive on their second drive in the second quarter, where he had a 16-yard run that was good to um get them a first down, he had a 14-yard run to convert a third down, and then you sprinkle in a little bit of Travis Etienne, and what do you know? Your um on goal line situation, he's able to hit Parker Washington for a three-yard touchdown. And, you know, another thing too is we just previously came off a game where offensively Parker Washington and Trevor were trying to get on the same page. Remember, he was, you know, chirping at Parker Washington on a two-point conversion, and here they are correcting their mistakes. And that's another thing about this team, it's getting better by the week, fixing things here and there by the week. You know, they're not fixing everything on a game-by-game basis, but small things are getting cleaned up bit by bit. And what you're gonna see by the end of the season by week 17 is a team that has cleaned up a majority of their big-time mistakes and the offense that's functioning on a higher level than it is right now. But them able to get over their miscommunication last week, him at Parker Washington, to go into this week on Monday, linking up on the three-yard touchdown pass, uh, was good to see on my part as well. I don't think a lot of people mentioned or or noticed that. Um, that here here we were last week. Those two were having a hard time getting on the same page. And, you know, Parker was dropping some balls before that in the Texans game. Um, but Parker Washington able to contribute on the offensive side in a big way and get the Jaguars on the board for their first seven points or well, six, and then the field goal or the extra point uh to get them on the board for their first set of points of the game. So after that, the Jaguars were able to put 14 and 10 points up in the next respective quarters. And a big reason, of course, and when you beat the Chiefs, it does come down to quarterbacks anyway. A big reason for that was the play of Trevor Lawrence after that point in that second quarter and heading forward. He turned it on on his birthday when a lot of people were looking at him with the side eye, not his teammates, because you know, they've done a good job of just staying in the moment and keeping each other um heads held high. You know, they that's another thing that Liam has coached, but he turned it on from that moment in the third quarter. I think he started their first drive, a seven-play drive of 87 yards with a touchdown there. That's the one, if I'm not mistaken, where he had to scramble for a touchdown. Yeah, a touchdown run. I'm looking at it here uh for 10 yards. So again, using his legs to get going there. All right, and then after that rushing touchdown from Trevor Lawrence, he gets some help on the defensive side of the ball, right? That's when the monumental, uh historic, and you know, a moment that'll live in our minds forever. Um, 99-yard touchdown interception uh comes into part in the last drive of the entire third quarter for both teams. Uh Devin Lloyd steps to the plate again and acquires his what fourth pick of the year. I think, and if I'm not mistaken, he leads the league in interceptions. Um, but again, man, we just can't. I know we're talking about Trevor Lawrence right now, but we can't say enough how much this man has improved as a player and what he's contributing uh to this team and just playing like the defensive player of the year. Like at this rate, he should win it, right? If he continues on at this rate, and shoutouts to Campanilly, Coach Campanili for putting him in better position and getting more out of him because it felt like the previous scheme not only put him in a bad position, but also too, you know, at times it feels like he he didn't want to give his all to that scheme. And again, you know, that that could have been um just the atmosphere and just the you know, just not seeing eye to eye with the coaching staff and the negative energy that was in the building with Doug Peterson and his group and Trent Balkey, right? Um, you know, who's to say we all wouldn't react the same way, I guess, um, you know, if we were in that atmosphere too. But yeah, huge pick six took it back for 99 yards from Devin Lloyd, uh, where he um, you know, he came up to the line and kind of dropped back into a robber situation and um was able to cut off a route, uh, like a little slant pattern or something that was breaking off an angle route that was breaking off behind him. Patrick Mahomes didn't even see him because I guess what happened is when he saw Devin Lloyd come up to the line and um engage with, you know, the center or guard or whoever it was, you know, he thought Devin Lloyd was out of the picture. And then Devin Lloyd um hits him with a swerve. And shout outs to Swerve, by the way, who was at the game, Swerve Strickland of AEW. Um he hit him with a swerve, drove back in the coverage for a Robert situation, was able to pick it off. And, you know, while it was the only pick of the night, Devin Lloyd knew he needed to make that one count. And shoutouts to everybody around him on the defense blocking to make sure he can turn that into a touchdown because you don't pick off Patrick Mahomes much, right, in this in this day and age. And when you pick him off or you're able to sack him, or you're able to get a strip fumble on him, you need to make it count. And shout outs to them, you know, understanding the gravity of them needing to contribute um some points to the mix. While again, it wasn't the three takeaways we're used to. That's okay, it's it's the Chiefs, right? That's not gonna happen with the Chiefs. But just making the one pick that we were able to get count and his teammates for just blocking their behinds off, man, and getting downfield and helping them get to the end zone. But back to Trevor, um, in the fourth quarter in their first drive, he throws a pick. Again, that was a situation where there was clearly interference, and everybody is just baffled that that wasn't called. Like, I know the Jacksonville Jaguars are gonna like ask the league about that and what and uh what WTF happened there in terms of that. And I'm I'm real curious to see what the league responds with because that was insane. Um, I forgot who it was, but the DVU ran into Park of Washington, and um it resulted in a pick, and that pick also resulted uh resulted in um an eventual touchdown from the offense because they had you know short field yardage, or uh they were on the short side of the field, so they didn't have to do too much. I think it was like two plays for 19 yards on the offense's end, and bam, there you go, touchdown, right? And all of a sudden, we're all sweating bullets again at the score of 21-21. Um, so yeah, man, again, that just goes back to what I was saying, man. It's not just a battle with the Chiefs, it's not just a battle with anxiety. Um, it's a battle with the refs, too. Every time you play this team, and it's just it's just funny how it all works out when you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs. But um, still yet Trevor Lawrence able to go on the next drive after throwing that pick um and get the Jacksonville Jaguars in good enough position to come away with a Cam Little field goal. Um, shout out to Cam Little, only had one field goal attempt on the day, but um he was able to make that one successfully. So he's trying to get back on the right track after, you know, having the miss that we had previously discussed in the previous episode. KC answers. They come back with a 12-play, 86-yard sequence for six minutes and 23 seconds that put the ball in the jazz court with under two minutes left in the game. The most Kansas City Chiefs thing ever, right? And that's why they're so great. You know, Andy Reid understanding the situation, understanding we need to chew out as much clock as we can. And they they maybe could have chewed out a little bit more, and they maybe should have. That you know, they made one small mistake, and that's what it comes down to when you're playing the Chiefs, it's like always one like small mistake. Um, and you know, in this case, like it I think it boiled down though, not to just that mistake, though, now that I'm thinking about it though, so I'll take that back. It also boils down to something I'll talk about for my next takeaway and the pick six. The pick six was a X factor uh for the Jacksonville Jazz Wars. But, you know, they put the ball in the Jazz court with a minute and 45 seconds left, and Trevor Lawrence goes out there and has the moment we've been hoping he uh would bring to us ever since that Chargers game, right? And the the Trevor moment, uh the Trevor Lawrence moment that we've been looking for since that point. And boy, did it ever come at a better time uh because again, the bright lights were there, the national stage was set for him to have this moment, right? And the people who've been doubting him for so long and questioning him for so long, the Dan Orlowski's of the world, and you know, all of these guys from ESPN, you it's Stephen A. Smith's who I don't think Stephen A. Smith was at the game, but I know he was watching, right? You don't miss Monday Night Football and work for ESPN, right? Because you got to go talk about it on first take the next day. But all of these um national pundits from ESPN and even other networks because everybody watches Monday Night Football, because it's a huge talking point on Tuesday, right? But Trevor Lawrence goes out there and he has the moment that Jacksonville Jaguars fans were hoping for him on his birthday again, by the way, um, for him to silence all of these doubters and haters that he's had. And he goes out there in this sequence, which was um seven plays for 60 yards, took up a minute and 22 in time. So they moved the field, uh, the ball down the field pretty efficiently there. But he makes two dime notable throws in his career, by the way. And what could be probably my favorite throw from him since that Jamal Agnew throwing the Bengals game, like I that was my favorite throw from him of his career. But I think this might replace it the one to BTJ, which I've watched many, many times. And shout outs to BTJ too, um, getting over his case of um the drops, right? And he it looked like he he bobbled it a little bit, you know, didn't catch it the cleanest, but he still was able to, you know, bring it in. And um, you know, ever since that San Francisco 49ers game, he's been hit the hands have been fine, and he's gradually getting back to himself. Um, but a breadbasket throw where Trevor Lawrence uh puts it right over the DB to a streaking Brian Thomas Jr. on the sideline for what may be the throw of Trevor Lawrence's NFL career so far, a lot of people would say at least. Um so for that to happen on the national stage was huge because there's been all of this talk about the hospital balls and all of this, and you know, he goes out and and makes that throw. And also, too, it was a throw earlier where it was actually incompletion. But I'm glad Troy Aikman brought and shine the light on it. It was the one to Tim Patrick, where he was explaining that Trevor Lawrence was trying to put the ball, I think, on his back shoulder to protect him. I loved hearing that from Troy Aitman. I loved both him and Joe Buck, by the way, legends. I wish I can get them on his podcast one day or one of them. But um, you know, you hear Troy Aikman say the reason Trevor threw it that way was him trying to protect his receiver. And you know, the the ongoing conversation has been, especially amongst the like the bots and the fantasy pundits, right? Is that he throws hospital balls and all of these people who are just trying to get clicks and likes and views. And look, Trevor Lawrence hadn't been the best quarterback in his career. We're not disputing that, but the hospital ball thing is just getting out of hand, is what I'm saying. And for Troy Aikman to kind of shed some light on that, I think that was one of the parts of the game that went unnoticed that I probably should have retweeted, but or you know, tweeted something about it. Um, but yeah, you have him doing things like that, the Tim Patrick throw, and then dropping the one in the bucket to Brian Thomas Jr., when they needed him to do it the most. And this is not the first time that's happened. They did it in the Texans game, him and Brian Thomas Jr. able to connect when the Jags needed them the most and getting the job done. And then after that, he hits DeMy Brown on a ball that if you put it on a rope, had to be what 45-50 yards where he he's going to um he's doing this outbreaking pattern, right, where he has some leverage to the outside. So able to hit DeAmy Brown on that pass after that, putting two dots together, you know, in that sequence to get the Jacksonville Jaguars where they needed to go. And then he has a Trevor Lawrence moment, right? Uh, where he gives the delay of game penalty. And we're all like looking like what in God's name, man. So yeah, a third uh penalty that put them in a situation where they were third and 13 on KC's um 16 or something like that, somewhere in there, that ballpark. He then goes, uh attempts to go back to Brian Thomas Jr. And we get a shocking call because we don't hardly see things call against the Chiefs. So um, you know, a lot of people like, oh, whoa, like what was that? But Brian Thomas Jr. and it indeed was pass interference. DB didn't turn around and locate the ball, hit Brian Thomas Jr., wrapped him before the ball got there, and that set us up for the wildest touchdown that we've seen in recent history, if not in Jazz history, period. Um, where Trevor Lawrence is on the one, gets his foot stepped on by either Patrick McCari or Munheim, who's filling in for our veteran, right? He falls to the ground, tries to pick himself up again. And we've seen this happen before where Trevor Lawrence got his foot stepped on, I think in the preseason. I think it was it against the Saints or somebody. Um, but this has happened before, right? Um he tries to lift himself off the ground, stumbles again, but continues to have the wherewithal to just get to his feet, right? And of course, you know, him and Liam say, you know, the thought process was to get up and throw it out of bounds to save time, right? Uh, because you didn't want to like be in a situation where you couldn't stop the clock, basically. So he gets himself off of the ground and realizes that he has a chance to dart for the touchdown and jumping on a grand opportunity where you know, typically it feels like somebody would have been there to tackle. I mean, it, you know, he did break a tackle or two to get there, but it feels like more bodies should have been there ideally. Um, and maybe, you know, the defense just let up. And, you know, Chris Jones was one of which I I agree with the people. You you absolutely, if you're Chris Jones and you've been the guy fussing at George Carl Loftus and, you know, fussing at all of these younger guys about them needing to pick it up, you absolutely can't be the person not running to the ball, you know, something that you're trained to do from the smallest stages of football, by the way. Always run to the ball until you hear a whistle, right? If you don't hear a whistle, you need to begin to the ball. And for a veteran who is well respected, and that I, you know, I love Chris Jones as a player and how he plays. I didn't love him on uh yesterday because he was playing against us. Um, but a guy that you know we all have great respect for, but a guy who um is just way better than that, right? In terms of the technical part of the game and always running to the ball and um, you know, basically, you know, going into the whistle, you know, playing into the whistle. He had a brain lapse though, in this case, and um he, you know, I think he even called it a flute play. But look, buddy, hey, that's on you, you know. You as the all-pro that you are, and how you're wired, and how you've been fussing that your other players to be wired in some of the same ways that you're wired, you should have been running to the ball in some way, shape, or form. You know, maybe you lost track of them, whatever the case may be. But that is a play that I was shocked to see out of an all-pro and a guy who has played football at the high level that he's played. And you know, it couldn't have happened at a better moment because it gave Trevor Lawrence the opportunity to pick himself up, break a tackle or two, and get into the end zone and make one of the biggest plays of his career, and the rest is history. So that is how Trevor Lawrence ended his birthday on the field, and that's how his night went on the field as he was able to rise to the occasion of the national spotlight being on him and um kind of answering the call like he did at Clemson, right? The spotlight was on him often at Clemson, you know, he gave a lot of these doubters the show that they were looking for, or maybe not looking for, I guess, in some some cases. He gave them the show that they were looking for, and it wasn't a perfect game. You know, there are things that definitely need to be cleaned up, but the biggest thing is that he showed them that, hey, while I am a quarterback that's going to make mistakes, I can also get my team back in the game and keep my team in the game and put the team on my back in this case and get the job done. So couldn't be happier for him, and how that whole situation ended for him on Monday night football. My second takeaway here, and again, I kind of mentioned this um as I was discussing the Trevor Lawrence situation of one of the X factors of the game that kind of helped the Jaguars win. The Jaguars didn't have a lot of penalties. It was four penalties, and I got them pulled up here. Um, as we know, they came into the game as the most penalized team in the league, like upwards of 35.